Spirit Guides, Pre-Birth Intentions & the Freedom to Be You with Christy Levy and Gary Temple Bodley

What if you didn’t come here to fix, perfect, or endlessly heal yourself—but to fully experience being you?

In this deeply personal episode of the Spiritual Spotlight Series, Rachel welcomes spiritual medium Christy Levy and spiritual teacher and channel Gary Temple Bodley, co-hosts of An Unimaginable Life.

Christy shares how her mediumship unexpectedly emerged in her 50s and how she now connects with spirit guides, crossed-over loved ones, and the non-physical collective known as White Light. Gary reveals how meditation opened his connection with Joshua, a collective of non-physical teachers, and explains why our beliefs and perspectives shape the reality we experience.

Together, they explore channeling, spirit guides, pre-birth intentions, free will, limiting beliefs, light language, manifestation, and why life may be designed for discovery rather than certainty.

Then the conversation becomes personal as Christy connects with Rachel’s spirit guides live. Hildegard of Bingen and Gerald Durrell step forward with powerful guidance about uniting medicine and mysticism, choosing wonder over certainty, releasing the belief that usefulness determines value, and allowing the healer to become the creator.

This conversation is a beautiful reminder that healing doesn’t always have to be heavy—and that wanting an experience may be reason enough to pursue it.

Learn more about Christy and Gary, explore the Freedom Project, and listen to An Unimaginable Life at https://teachingsofjoshua.com.

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A Different Kind Of Conversation

SPEAKER_04 0:50

Today's episode is going to be a little different. And I have a feeling it may become one of those conversations where we just go outside the script and see where spirit takes us. I'm joined today by Christy Levy and Gary Temple Bodley, co-host of An Unimaginable Life. I want to make sure I pronounce that correctly. Christy is a spiritual medium who connects with non-physical consciousness, including spirit guides and those who have crossed over. Through her work, she helps people explore their life path, purpose, beliefs, and what she describes as their pre-birth intentions, which is so cool. Gary is a spiritual teacher, author, and a channel for a collective non-physical teachers known as Joshua. His work explores how our beliefs and perspectives influence the way we experience reality and how expanding those perspectives can create greater freedom, clarity, and alignment. Together, Christy and Gary explore consciousness, intuition, manifestation, identity, purpose, and what may exist beyond the physical world. Their podcast even includes their dead talks, where Christy brings through historical figures for conversations about life and consciousness. And today we're making this one personal. After we talk for a bit, Christy is going to connect with one of my own spirit guides live on the Spiritual Spotlight series. So I truly have no idea where this conversation is going, which quite frankly makes me love it even more. Christy and Gary, thank you so much for calling the Spiritual Spotlight series. I'm so happy you're here.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Thanks so much for having us. So much. This is great.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

I love it. So we're going

How Mediumship Arrived In Midlife

SPEAKER_04 2:18

to start with Christy. So, Christy, was mediumship something that you always knew you had, or did your abilities emerge later on in your life?

SPEAKER_01 2:27

I did not know that I had it. It emerged at around age, I don't know, mid-50s, 53, 54. And I actually didn't believe in it. So most of my life I thought that it was fake.

SPEAKER_04 2:45

That is fascinating. And then I guess I want to take that a little bit further. So if in your 50s you leaned into the skiff, like how did you then trust your abilities to really come through and be a medium?

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Well, um, I have an inability to imagine things visually, to see pictures. I could never do guided meditations. They just made me insane. And so when the first dead person came through, they used primarily images that I knew I couldn't make up. So that, and then once I knew who the messages were for, the things that they gave me were things I couldn't possibly know, where something they lost was under a bed and they would describe the item or describe a memory that I couldn't know anything about. And it was entirely too easy and too clear for me to doubt it. Oh, it just comes very easily. It's not something I had to try to do.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

Right. That is fascinating. And I respect the fact that, you know, you bring up not being able to like visually see things, but now like this is how they deliver the messages to you, and you can clearly see for someone like myself, you know, I do believe in this realm, but I have a hard time with seeing things. So I I love the fact that you're touching on like, no, I was given this and I trusted it. Like that's so cool, it's fascinating. Not we all get our our touches and our experiences through different means, but I like the fact that you weren't visual and now you are.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Exactly. Yeah, we figure out it's a condition called aphantasia, and that only a small percentage of the population has it. But if you think what's the perfect thing to have for Christy, yeah, it would be the inability to make things up in her head. Yeah. When I started channeling Joshua, I totally thought I was making it up. The only thing that changed was when they said start writing, and I ended up writing two books in 16 weeks that just came out of my head, you know. So I love that you know, for for the rest of us, we have to get some kind of, you know, we're all gonna have some kind of doubt about it, but the more you do it, the more you realize that. And then Chrissy started channeling as well. So she channels a group of non-physical, her teachers, they're not our teachers, they're her teachers called White Light. And then I got to ask questions to White Light, and they verified everything that Joshua had said over the years. So it was super interesting that we're two together and we're able to uh play off each other, so to speak.

The Collaboration That Sparked Dead Talks

SPEAKER_04 5:23

So when the two of you met, when did you realize that your work wasn't simply similar, that you were actually meant to collaborate?

SPEAKER_01 5:31

You want to take that one? Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

So I had a podcast, Joshua Live, and I still have it. We are going on 10 years now and 700 episodes. Christy found it and immediately called me. We I had a channel course at the time called the Boot Boot Camp, and she took the boot camp. And one of the side effects of the boot camp is that people get their empathic and spiritual and psychic abilities come online. The idea is that as you shift your perspective of yourself and your reality from limiting to empowering, your natural gifts come online. They do not serve you if you're in fear. But once you start to understand this process and learn what fear is and why you perceive things in fear, once you sort of raise yourself above that through the work that we're doing, then these abilities that come to enhance your life, and everyone's different, but something always comes on for people. And so Christy, though, got full blown, and you know, she could talk to her inner self, she could talk to my inner self. I mean, she has so many talents, and when it was coming on, she was really confused about it. But we worked together for six months or so, and then the whole thing, you know, started happening. The what started happening in the first place was that we'd just be together, and she would get a song or something, or she'd get a phrase. For instance, it was my birthday, and she got this phrase Ziggy, her horse is named Ziggy, and then she got Stardust, and I said, That's David Bowie. And so then she brings in David Bowie, and we have this long conversation, and the reason he came is because we have the same birthday.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

So it's like a birthday gift to me. Well, we had this happening maybe 20, 30 times, and we never thought of recording it, and then one day she got three songs in her head, and we realized these were three songs that Prince wrote for other people, and so we knew it was Prince. This is what we have to do. They don't tell us who they are, we have to go on these clues.

SPEAKER_02 7:42

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

And if we were doing a dead talk here, two people would come in, they wouldn't tell us who they were until we until we discovered ourselves. So, this interesting idea about discovery, yeah. Anyway, so that's we recorded that Prince conversation, and that became the first Unimaginable Life podcast.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

So

Channeling Joshua And Rewriting Beliefs

SPEAKER_04 7:57

cool. So, I want to go back to Gary, and so your journey eventually led you to channel the collective You Call Joshua. What happened in your life that opened that door for you?

SPEAKER_00 8:08

I had this huge inspiration that was overwhelming to start meditating. As soon as I started meditating, I felt a presence inside of my head, and it felt so much like a presence, I just started talking to it. I was very into Abraham at the time, so really Abraham got me to this level. And then when Joshua comes in and it's meditating, I just started talking to it and I would get these answers back. I'd ask questions. I always thought I was making it up, and then one day they said get up and go right, right, right. So I went to my computer to start typing. And the first words that they ever said, it's in the introduction for the first book, which is a perception of reality, is that everything's right, there's no wrong anywhere in the universe. I didn't know what they're talking about at the time, but that turns out to be the foundation for all these teachings. And now, five books later, and all these podcasts and this community, it's really understanding that the illusion separation causes fear, it causes duality, it causes us to judge and label and avoid things and move towards things, but in reality, the system itself is a perfect system. There aren't any flaws in that system, it's just our interpretation of it. And so, as we do this work where we excuse me, where we process beliefs, so we discover our limiting beliefs and we do what we call a manifestation event form, and you find evidence in your life that that belief is simply not true. Something happened to cause you to feel negative emotion, and it was because the belief was triggered, and then we go through this work and prove that in our by finding evidence in our life that that belief was never true, and as you do this work over time, your mental construct, which is the sum total of all your beliefs, moves from limiting to empowering, and that's really how you shift your perspective. When people talk about raising their vibration, you can't just raise your vibration, your vibration is determined based on your perspective, and so as you expand your perspective, that vibration naturally expands as well and then creates a new reality based in that perspective. So that's what we've understood over 13 years of doing this.

SPEAKER_04 10:22

That's amazing.

What Channeling Feels Like Inside

SPEAKER_04 10:24

So you both communicate with non-physical consciousness, but in different ways. How would each of you describe what channeling or mediumship actually feels like from the inside?

SPEAKER_00 10:35

Well, I'll start.

SPEAKER_04 10:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

When I'm channeling verbally, which took a little while, I had to get I got someone hypnotized me. So I was in writing before that. So in writing, it was just this stream of thought. So if anyone's ever free written, that's channeling. And channeling is a basic ability that we all have. Anyone can do it. When I started verbally doing it, then all that I do, which is unique, is that I'm connected to the stream of thought. I'm very present in the moment, and I'm just saying what the thoughts are. So I'm translating these thoughts into words. And you know, really it's it's the same now as it was the first day I did it. It really hasn't changed any, except the teachings have changed, but my ability has been about the same. Christy channels, and it's a bit different. Do you want to explain that?

SPEAKER_01 11:27

Well, uh I think at at first it was it was very much just translating streams of thought, or um, I have about six different streams that come in for me. Some are still pictures, some are moving pictures, there's emotion, and they feel like little highways to me that that come. But and at first I was translating, eventually I just went out and was trans channeling. So it was like I was asleep and then I woke up. And now it's somewhere in between. I am able to go out enough that I can see what's in the room, I can see everyone, but I'm very, very far back, and I have very little control over what is said. I know what's going to be said, but I I don't I don't control it. So it's um so it's fun, it's really fun.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

No, it sounds amazing. And so for both of you being channelers and you know, for being tapped in, how do you one do spiritual hygiene to you know keep yourself clear, clear channel, but also like keeping yourself grounded and protected?

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Well, I've never considered needing to be protected. For me, it's literally like holding on to a thread, and I can release the thread at any time. Gotcha. What's coming through is just truth, and there's no negative side of it, there's no contradiction either in the thousands of channeling sessions or in the five books, nor is there any contradiction with any other serious channel like Abraham. So that's what's interesting about it. I feel a little bit drained afterwards, but not to the extent that Christy does. So I don't really need to be cleansed in a certain way. I do meditate in advance and I do set my intentions in advance, so that might be part of it. But when I can absorb these learnings, teach these learning, teach these teachings, and live sort of embody this, I think that's how I become clear.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

I would agree. That's it's there isn't anything that I started doing differently once this came in. I do have people say to me often that with the dead people, they think there's something that I need to protect myself from. And that's quite a bit different than channeling white light or spirit guides. It's all a bit different, the energy is a bit different. But I just don't subscribe to anything evil. I don't, I think that everything is love and there's you know the dark and the light, and it's all fine. And my vibration is where it is. Anything that happens for me is happening for me, and it's something that I need to experience. I don't really stuff started happening because of this work I was doing.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Right.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

And so I just continue the same work, and I I think I do get clearer and clearer and clearer as time goes on.

SPEAKER_04 14:41

I love that. And I I do resonate and agree with you know, everything love or above. I do feel like, you know, you set the a clear intention, energy follows intention. And if your intention is that you're going to be channeling things of love and light, that's what you're bringing in. And you know, I also like you don't subscribe to evil and things like that. And I feel like because of this thought process and this belief, that naturally protects us, you know, agreed. Yeah, it's it's fascinating. I I just appreciate you uh bringing that up because I do think that sometimes people can get a little scared when it comes to channeling just because they're not aware of it. And they're like, what do you mean you're a trans channel and you're sitting in the back and someone's with you, but you're like, Yeah, I'm protected, I'm good. Um, this is great.

SPEAKER_01 15:25

Is there's there's nothing until you do it or you're in the room and you hear the the message, the the love and the connection that's coming through. Yeah, there is there is no way it I'm so filled up with that energy of love, and it's all they're doing is reminding everyone who they truly are that there's no way if there was some evil dark energy that I don't believe in that wanted there's no room, there's just no room for that. There's no way.

SPEAKER_04 15:59

Yeah, I completely agree with you 100%.

Spirit Guides And Pre Birth Intentions

SPEAKER_04 16:02

So let's demystify spirit guides a little. When we say spirit guide, what do you actually mean? And who or what are we communicating with?

SPEAKER_01 16:12

You want me to take that, or do you want to take that?

SPEAKER_00 16:15

I'll try the first part of it. From our experience, in the work that we do, which is called the Freedom Project, we part of that project is that people come in and we determine their perspective through surveys and perspective calls. But the mum, the main thing is having their spirit guide reading with Christy. In that spirit guide reading, there's always three, and these were all chosen pre-birth. So the person's setting their intentions for this life, and they choose these myriad of spirit guides, and I'm sure people have hundreds of them. But in this case, there'll be three that come forward, and they're the three that are forward with you now. So, in certain times of your life, this spirit guide will come forward. Sometimes spirit guides are with you their entire life, and so it just depends on what you're what's going on in your life. So when people are doing the Freedom Project, that's what's going on in their life, and that's who comes in to support them in this hundred-day journey that they go on. In today's podcast episode, it's going to be so exciting because every everyone else we do dead talks there. But here you're willing to have your spirit guides come through, and it gets personal sometimes, but it's really, really fun. Some of them will be human. So a lot of them are human, actually. Some will be people that we can look up, identify. They might be somewhat famous, some will be people you never heard of before. There could be angelic, there could be galactic. Galactic is they're on another, they're in another reality, but they're physically focused, they're alive, and this is all by design. It's very interesting.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

Yeah, I love that. Anything you want to add to that, Christy?

SPEAKER_01 18:00

Well, I guess because I work with them every day, it's it's definitely evolved. I get the sense from them that we all have millions of guides. I I think it's a lot of them. I do. And I believe that from what they explained to me and through this, it is something we choose pre-birth. And that's interesting. And there like, like he said, there are some that are with you from the day you're born, and they step forward and back depending on what is happening in your life or what timeline you're perceiving that you're on in your life. And they just are in for specific reasons, and it's very interesting. There are those that energies that are like, I call them ethereal. That's just what I call them. But they're those, they might be Greek mythology goddesses, they're deities in Hindu and different things. So there are those guides. There are those that are were once human. There are guides that come in that will explain that they were with you in a past life, and you do this for each other as you it's unbelievable. And there are, you know, the galactic, the angelic, and there are elemental guides too that are fairies. And I it's it's and it seems to be endless as I go through. Well, I've never had that before, but the energies are very distinct. I I can feel certain things that's I know, okay. Well, this one's human. I don't know anything about it yet, but I can tell as it moves in, this is human or this is angelic or this is galactic. And it it's it's really amazing. I think the experience of having a reading is that you just cannot imagine how well that someone knows you that well. That's I think been the experience of a lot of people. If you would talk to them, it's things that are so intimate and personal that you're not even aware of them and they will say it. And how, how is there anyone in this universe that knows me that well? And that's if you never follow anything that they tell you to do, I think that's a great thing from it. I did one for someone and uh just a month or so ago and then asked him how he felt afterwards, and he said, Well, I don't feel alone anymore. And I thought that's really okay. If I don't, if that's the only reason that these come through me, I always get so much more than the person that is sitting for me. But if you know, if that was it, that was enough right there.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

I love that, and that's such a beautiful thing, is that we're never alone because we always have our teams with us, even if we do or do not realize it, our team is with us. And I oh, that what a beautiful moment for him to share that with you.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Yeah, like it was it was it was really incredible. I thought, well, that's that's new. That's not something anyone's ever said before, but I really it was impactful.

SPEAKER_04 21:22

Yeah, and and this is uh gonna be an odd question, but it's what popped in my mind. Do you are you seeing more galactic guides stepping forward now that we're more in a time of disclosure of you know, we're coming, it's like aliens are becoming more known in this planet. Like, do are you finding more galactic guides or stepping forward? Like, I'm here with you, and this has come into your reality.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yeah, that's a really interesting question. It's a good one. I don't know if it coincides with that. Keep in mind, I've only been doing this for about four years. So, and for the first two and a half years, I never saw a galactic guide, but they started coming through, and the energy is very unique, and the communication is a bit more of a challenge for me, the stream that I have to catch. So I think I've always thought I just had to develop my ability, and all of a sudden I was able to get the galactic guide. I never thought about it in the way you just said it, but that could honestly be true as well. There may be in the last year and a half just more of them showing up. I I don't know. That's that's a really good question. Um probably probably both. It's probably both.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

Now, are you finding that you're pulling in light language from like the galactic beings? or from like the elementals, you know?

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Just just recently that happens not so much in the readings that I do, but in one-on-one activations or things like that. And then just recently in communication with a galactic one, typically it comes through, it feels like a really thin stream of frequency. I wish I could describe it, but I can't, but it it comes through and it it sounds funny to me at first. And then it feels like it is just English. But recently I actually heard something on the front end and the back end that was not that was more the sounds and what in the world is that and they explained that there is that I have a translation mechanism. Right. And I was just able to get the beginning and the end of of their language what the way it comes out. I don't know. It all sounds very bizarre to me but I love that I would have had myself committed if I'd heard this myself talking like this five years ago. But it just is normal to me now like oh okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Well I I think it's amazing that you know you're bringing in the you're hearing it in the light language but then they're you're getting the translation and then it's like okay this is clicking in. And you know for me if I get light language it's more of an energetic feeling and as you know so I'll speak it but it's the feeling and what is it opening inside of the energetic field. So I I love that you also have the translation mechanism.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

I'd be like this this is about love.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

That's what they right that's what that's what they say but I'm with you on light language typically it doesn't even come through here. Right. It just like pops out it's right so this is different. What I heard recently was very different than that. It came through a stream that was definitely in my brain it came like processed through here so I I don't have much information on it.

SPEAKER_04 24:47

It's more to unfold is what we're hearing.

SPEAKER_00 24:50

Stay tuned the ideas of activations came to us and and at the time it was like the the weirdest thing it was super woo-woo we didn't want to do it and then suddenly Christy is speaking light language and her natural light language is angelic and our friend who just recently started with this totally normal guy manager corporate manager type he starts speaking dragon and other friend uses the hands right yeah so the three of them do these recorded activations. That's cool as other people are getting the activations they start spontaneously speaking light language too and some are fairy there's all these different soul languages I guess the most woo-woo thing in the world but to hear that you do light language is amazing.

SPEAKER_04 25:40

Yeah it's it's fascinating I will say that Jamie Price who's like the person that kind of like put a little bit of light language on paper and she does courses and whatnot. I took a course with her and it was fascinating to me. And I love that you have somebody that channels dragon because dragon energy is becoming more and more prevalent now just because I feel like we're in this massive spiritual awakening moment which is fascinating that Chrissy does this pre-birth intentions because like we're going through this birth canal this new energy and I love that you work with no you chose this it's the truth you may not have consciously chosen it but something inside of you did you did and which means you came equipped to handle all of it.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

Exactly nothing that you're going to encounter that you didn't bring in what you needed to get you through it.

Perspective, Free Will, And Unimaginable Life

SPEAKER_00 26:36

Exactly always that way so one of the things I do want to ask Gary is one of the central ideas in Joshua's teachings is that our perspective shapes our experience what do you feel that means in everyday life it only means this one thing it's your perspective of yourself in every area of your life and this is really easy if an area of your life is going well it's generally because you have a high perspective of yourself in that area you enjoy doing this work. You are you have a beautiful voice you're clear you're in love with spirituality you're a seeker and so that's a very high perspective of yourself. Someone else may be going through you know insecurity or or trying to hold things together or trying to manage the outside and it's just because it they simply have a limited perspective of themselves. But it's all a bel it's all based in beliefs your perspective you can't control it it is what it is based in your belief system so the only work you do is the work to reduce the intensity of limiting beliefs and then raise the intensity of powering beliefs none of it can be done by thinking your way through it it actually has a process and the process takes in Chrissy's case it took two years. She started with a very high perspective but she did this work pretty straight for two years processing beliefs every single day and then over time what emerges is a new understanding of yourself a new understanding of how reality works and this is greater clarity. It doesn't make it a better life because think about better and worse right and wrong that's duality it makes it a more expanded life so it just becomes more new and is there good stuff and bad stuff that depends on your perspective if you start to see experiences that you have where you feel negative emotion as happening to you that's one perspective that's limited. If you start to see them as happening for you so that you can identify your belief structure then that's an elevated perspective and it just keeps going from there. Our podcast is called an unimaginable life because as you do this work to shift your perspective you have experiences that no other human has ever had they're called unimaginable experiences and you here's what everyone does they they imagine a future where the conditions are in place where they feel free abundant whatever but that's not how it works you do this work and you and what happens is life unfolds in a way that is unimaginable. By the time you get there you look back and you go oh my god I can't believe I was living like that before I can't believe how limited I was keeping myself I can't believe how concerned I was what other people thought or this and that and the other thing you don't know until you really start doing this work and then you have these experiences that you just can't explain to people because they wouldn't make any sense it it is a fascinating but what happens is just life gets way more interesting and exciting. That's for sure so where does free will fit into all of this if we have pre-birth intentions and guidance are there predetermined pieces of our lives or are we constantly creating as we go all right this was this was the cause of a of a quantum leap in my reality I was in the middle of channeling with white light so so christy is is now verbally channeling white light we're talking about some other subject in the middle of it it's all being recorded just her and I and then I asked about free will they said okay for the for us to do this christy has to go out so christy surrenders becomes a trans channel I'm talking directly to white light and they say this everything that you ever did every choice you ever made every action you ever took was there's only one possibility it was the possibility that you did it may have seemed like you had many choices but the choice that you chose was the only one you were ever going to choose based on the perspective you had at the time your perspective determines the choices we are actually in an illusion of choice. So when we're thinking about something it seems as if we could do a million million different things but there's only one actual thing based on the perspective that you have I said well what about free will they said free will is foundational to the entire universe it's basis of the universe but it's not your free will it's your inner self's free will your inner self chose this life all you are doing is experiencing it. The only choice that you have in this reality and this is what sounds crazy but when I got this everything changed the only choice you have is your choice of perspective to see yourself from a higher perspective to the limit of your beliefs right or to see yourself from a limited perspective. That's your only choice the decisions actions and choices that arrive from that perspective depend on where you are and so the only thing that really matters is the work you do to shift your perspective it's fascinating that but when I when I got that and Christy got it at the same time we we we did what's called a quantum leap which we don't advise anyone doing but we woke up in what was essentially a different reality and our bodies had to catch up and we walked into Target which is the nice store but we're like oh my god it feels terrible in here you know wow and it was just like we we say that we quantum leapt to a slightly shittier reality.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Yeah yeah it it's a it's an interesting thing that idea of perspective and it isn't that you you will always perceive that you have choices and what you really want to do is do the inner work to soften your limiting beliefs and pump up your empowering beliefs because that's what's determining your perspective and determining what you see are the choices you have to make. So from a low perspective you may think your choice is motel six or sleep in the car. And from a different perspective your choice is the Ritz Carlton or a penthouse on the beach and that's what you're going to experience is so it seems like free will your inner self doesn't care. It's all perfect it's all wonderful that there's no good bad better so what do you want to experience that's where you have your free will it's in your choice of your perspective and that is an interesting thing to watch yourself do.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

After all these years of talking to hundreds of famous dead people every single one of them every single one no matter who it is will say that their life was perfect and they wouldn't change a thing but when they were in their life could they have felt better that was the only thing that was like I guess you could have felt better but we don't care about that. Doesn't matter at all but it we it matters to us living this life and that's that's why we're interested in what we're doing.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

That's fascinating. Have you ever by channeling hundreds of dead people what is probably like the most do you have like a common piece of advice that they pull forward in these talks or is it just all over the place?

SPEAKER_00 34:23

That's a good question.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

It's it well it's both it's all over the place but I would say that the commonality is that there's nothing serious happening here that we take everything much too seriously and that this is a blink of an eye and it's supposed to be fun and the feeling reality means follow what feels good to you not not that you have to do what's responsible to earn what feels good to you. No, just follow what feels good and it absolutely will be the best thing for everyone around you too. It's this idea that no I have to do this because I have kids and I have to do this that's that that's an illusion and they'll be fine they'll be far happier if you'll just follow what lights you up. That's your inner self trying to take you on the direction to what you truly want.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Right.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

But we don't do that we think it has to be hard to earn something and I think that's the most common thing that they tell us all the time.

SPEAKER_00 35:24

They also say that you're here to really live life live life fully don't be comfortable don't be secure there is no certainty don't try and create certainty live it fully if you are terribly upset feel that if you're terribly happy feel that it's all part of this experience there's not one part of it you want to miss I love that now I'm gonna ask a question and if you don't feel comfortable answering that's okay but this is where I I feel like I want to go both Gary and Christy you both feel very like I'm living my life fully and it is what it is and you kind of have this energy of like I'm good no matter what before you leaned into this work did you take things super seriously and did you have to kind of deconstruct though that belief system of I'm gonna be okay no matter what I did for sure.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

I was in a ton of control I wanted to make sure everything was in such a way that I couldn't possibly feel negative emotion next week. Right if that makes sense. I had to be on time for this and this had to be right my daughter had to do the right things and I had to say the right things and I had to be the right daughter and the right wife and all of this stuff so that tomorrow I didn't have someone say you're not great or lose a client and yeah I mean I I thought everything had to be controlled until I realized that nothing could be controlled.

SPEAKER_00 37:01

The thing that got me is white light I was doing a channel session with white light and they said to me if we were to put you back in your body 10 years ago how you felt in that body would break you. You couldn't stand it for 10 seconds. Yeah so no I mean we still have what's called manifestation events we still drop our perspective from time to time we still wish things were different than they are we still we have a a little time that we do together where we complain and just make fun of everything right yeah and we take things seriously and we care about things.

SPEAKER_04 37:37

Of course the things are important to us but it's a whole lot different yeah and you know it moves moves much faster here when when your perspective's high there's things happening constantly I love that I love that because it gives you kind of like this sense of almost hope that if you work on you know the limiting beliefs and then like and then softening the empowering beliefs and really changing your perspective that's really what we've hit on a lot it's like imagine your life could be so much different.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

We've done this work now for together for six seven years that thousands of people have gone through the course and it works for every single person. It doesn't not work for anyone it's just a matter of actually doing

How To Start The Freedom Project

SPEAKER_00 38:24

the work.

SPEAKER_03 38:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 38:25

A lot of us get into spirituality because we want to feel good and this sort of gives us hope you know there's another way of living but it doesn't do much is you know putting a happy face sticker in an empty fuel tank what you want what you really need to do is actually do the process and if you do the process it works 100% of the time amazing yeah before we shift into the spirit guide reading one this course if anyone is interested in taking this course where is the best place for them to go to really the website's called teachingsofjoshua.com this course because it takes a lot of our time there's a little bit of a line to get in but they're on the website you will see freedom booths these are little mini seven day freedom projects that you can take they're discounted 50% right now and this will give you an idea they can also go to the website teachingthod and download the audio book the first book a perception of reality use the coupon code Gary Free one word and you'll get it for free. That's a great place to start and of course listening to the podcast if it resonates with you then you'll follow through this is what how everyone comes to us at some point.

SPEAKER_04 39:43

I'd love that so before we begin is there anything I or the listener should do simply just be present and open to whatever comes through is there anything I need to do you do not need to do a thing you just be you and sit and listen a lot of people want to take notes but they ask that you don't just sit and listen because it's all recorded. So yes ma'am yeah I I sit and scribble it helps me to focus so I'm not I'm not making notes about you I'm scribbling at Rachel 1998 right it's kidding yeah okay so let's see what we got hmm and if you're inspired you can ask a question at any time oh yeah absolutely they know what you're asking internally so they'll generally get there too yeah they'll they'll generally answer it before you get the chance to ask it so I will say that I have intentionally tried to not control anything that comes through whatever's for the best and highest good I just I'm open and I could be vulnerable.

Spirit Guide Reading: Hildegard Steps Forward

SPEAKER_01 40:51

Okay and you can edit this later I won't but okay so the thing that I'm getting first is basically before I really identify any spear guides it's it's movement. This feels like it's not a reading about fixing something I mean it never is but this is really about expansion I can tell it's um interesting so yeah so because you already do so much intuitive work what I'm thinking here is I'd love for you not to don't think of this as us, me, your spirit guide scary any of us telling you something that you're supposed to believe but think of it like this like it's a little experiment in recognition. So I'll give you what I'm receiving and you notice what in your own system like what does your own system do with it when you get it it's interesting the first guide is quick female not soft I recognize this energy for sure I have spoken to this one before not not soft in like the way you might think of feminine she's very composed dang I know this energy really well. Upright very upright and observant okay what are you doing so it here's what I recognize about her there's so much stillness in her that everything around her is noisy by comparison that's the best way I can describe it to you hands let's see hands a lot of hands hands that do things capable hands oh wow come on tell me who are seeing touching arranging things tending examining it's like almost clinical is it no I don't no that's not it she doesn't feel like I can feel it in the back of my head wherever she is particularly she doesn't feel particularly medical to me but you do are you do you have some past and I'm a registered nurse in my day life and I'm a doctor's office are okay you are now okay yeah well that's in my day life I run a doctor's office okay that's great okay that yeah all right I don't get that she's not that's not why she's forward okay wow what is I don't have her name yet but I'm telling you I recognize her it's not it's not Florence Nightingale.

SPEAKER_00 43:38

That's what's coming to me.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

No it's not it's not so she says you you and I learned the same thing in different languages she says you learn to observe a body and notice what changes to recognize patterns and understand that tiny pieces of information can tell you something about the whole picture. And so did she she says so did I but her language is is more like earth substances preparation maybe healing compounds but it's it's not man she doesn't dramatize suffering like I get that she's it's important. She's okay she's amused by the way humans believe that something has to be difficult. Okay we were just saying that difficult solemn or painful like to be profound. Okay so wow who is this she's already talking she's gonna give me if she is soon up Healing isn't the removal of what is wrong. Healing is the restoration of communication. Communication between the body and consciousness, between sensation and interpretation. Is that what you're saying? Okay. Intuition and intellect. Okay. A human being and what the human being already knows. So something about the nervous system. Okay, there's a refinement in something, something that you're thinking about that has to do, I think, with a nervous system. Anyway, she said that you receive a whole lot of information very naturally, and your work is is actually about learning what not to amplify. So she's saying that there's a receiver. What is that? Are you trying to show me? Oh, that's what I was drawing. It's like a uh an antenna thing doesn't need to become stronger. It's the signal is gonna get clearer because the static becomes less important. I don't know what, but she's kind of going fast. That she's really close to you when you have to distinguish is this mine, is this someone else's? Is this intuition? Is this anxiety? Is this information or am I interpreting information through my own nervous system? Like she's involved in teaching you discernment without shutting down your sensitivity. Do you understand why she would be doing that? Okay, okay. So a lot of green, not emerald green, but like actual vegetation green.

SPEAKER_04 46:41

Is it green terror?

SPEAKER_01 46:43

I don't know. I don't know yet. Let's see, let's keep going. She's not really answering that, she's not taking it away.

SPEAKER_00 46:49

This is really interesting because usually they we find out who they are right away.

SPEAKER_01 46:53

Yeah, but she didn't want to do that, she just didn't. So she's making you work. No, it's it's fine, it's not any harder for me. It's just interesting. So making me work. Yeah, she's older, she's not elderly, she has dark hair. I can see it. I know her. I'm telling you, I know her. I just can't name her yet. I don't love it. I can't get it. I've definitely had her in in before. So it's there's a lot of vegetation that I see, but then writing and like recorded knowledge thing. So there's there's a world that she when she was alive as human, it was a time where women with certain kinds of knowledge had to be super careful about how visibly powerful she appeared. Yep, I can see that. So okay. Oh, oh, I see. It's Hildegard. Hildegard. Oh, that's who it is. Hildegard. I've I've she's been on a dead talk before. I knew I recognized her. So yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

Hildegard of Benjamin.

SPEAKER_01 48:05

Yeah, so she's she's really she said that the stuff that she was giving me wasn't necessarily a map onto her biography, right? So she was saying just it was there. She gave me this water image, and I I really couldn't get it, but what it was, but it's symbolic more than historical, she says. So she wants to leave that piece sort of open. Okay, okay. So medieval sort of time is her thing.

SPEAKER_02 48:39

Okay. So it's I love this.

SPEAKER_01 48:43

She was a mystic, she's kind of describing. I I remember, but not detailed. She wrote about the natural world and healing, too, but she also composed music, yeah, and recorded some really extraordinary visionary experiences, she's saying, so she allowed that mysticism and and the body and nature and creativity to occupy the same room, and that's your connection to her. That is what she's saying. That's that's part of it. So, because from her perspective, you didn't have to leave one world to enter another one. She she's what she has her message for you is do not abandon your precision in order to prove your mysticism. So occasionally feel that clinical part of you and the intuitive part need different voices.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

And the one that requires evidence and discernment, and the other one requires surrender. And she disagrees with that. Your discernment is part of your intuition. Let them be together. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 49:50

So if I ask one question, yeah. For some reason, a lot of songs keep so I normally am not somebody who remembers my dreams and do not have a lot of things that hit me. And the last like couple months, I have I'm remembering a ton of dreams, and I I have tons of songs playing in my head all the time.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

All the time. I'm like, what do you want from me?

SPEAKER_01 50:14

It's interesting, right? So there's something that she's kind of insistent about while you're telling that story, and it's joy, it's fun for you, and that's what this is. Yeah. Okay. So it's she said there's there's a belief that you have that is in you that's something about like healing doesn't really have to be heavy, right?

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Oh my gosh, that's my website. That's what I says. Healing doesn't have to be heavy. That's my oh, okay. Well, great.

SPEAKER_01 50:39

All right. So that's yeah, okay, that makes sense. So it she says it's not it's not just a teaching style or a branding, right? It's not that, it's that what I believe there's something deeper in it. So, so the image that she's giving me is like opening the windows of a room where someone's been really sick for a long time and fresh air comes in, and nothing about the person's history has been, you know, denied, and nothing painful has been really mim minimized, but suddenly there's more in the room than the illness. And and that that is what you do. She says, You open the window.

SPEAKER_04 51:18

Oh, I like that.

SPEAKER_01 51:19

Yeah, that's cool, right? Yeah, so you don't always have to be the person who finds the wound. Sometimes your role is just to open the window and remind someone that there's a whole world beyond the thing that they've been staring at.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 51:33

Okay, so yeah, I don't know. So that's exactly what I said.

SPEAKER_03 51:38

It's on my website.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

I know, okay, that's really cool. Yeah, that's

Spirit Guide Reading: Gerald Durrell And Wonder

SPEAKER_01 51:42

yeah. So thank you. Yeah, so the next one, she's gonna step back and and this this is so funny. This second one is definitely human, but it's masculine, at least, yeah, definitely masculine. Okay. Like, light, curious, playful, very irreverent. And again, it's kind of like one I had earlier that was like sort of impatient with spiritual performance. Could everybody stop trying so hard to be spiritual? Is sort of his thought. It's really funny.

unknown 52:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 52:17

That's why I'm always impatient.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

It's funny this guy. Okay, so okay. Eyes, very observant eyes. Okay, I can't. He's this is tougher. All right, let's see what we got here. I can see like what looks like the zoo and a lot of luggage, the zoo and luggage. Oh wow. His birthday is either a day before or a day after Carrie's birthday. The day before, January 7th. Okay. Oh, he's fast. All right, and my family. My family, the zoo. He's rolling these things, the luggage, the zoo, and his family. My family, my family. A lot of travel, very intelligent, but it's the intelligent of someone who who just sort of learns because they're just fascinated by everything. Wow. Wonder. Oh, are you gonna give me that? Wonder is more useful than certainty.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Well, okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

Wonder is more useful than certainty. I don't have his name yet, but he's trying. He's using the zoo, and he keeps going back to the zoo and the luggage and and then he just keeps I get my family, my family. Okay, hmm. All right, so he definitely is around you to also about integrating some of this mystical uh and and and I guess it's clinical, that's the word that he's using. They've used that a couple of times, but it's uh he he's connected to this permission for you to be interesting rather than impressive. You have permission to be interesting rather than impressive. When someone begins uh teaching publicly uh about spiritual things, there's this invisible pressure, you're not acutely aware of it, but you're feeling it, to become a spiritual teacher, this spiritual teacher, to have the answer, to speak beautifully, to make everything meaningful, to demonstrate that you understand what's happening, and that's where the wonder is more useful than certainty. It's because your podcast, he's saying, isn't it's not because you're talking about spirituality, it's the conversation that's interesting. Um ask ask the question that you're not supposed to ask. Ask the ridiculous question, ask the obvious question, ask the question that makes everyone laugh because curiosity is gonna create the openings 20th century for sure, January 7th. Radio, television, broadcasting, there's something in that a lot of humor. Yeah, that's all right. He's laughing. Yeah. So he's saying, excellent. Now stop guessing and let's have a conversation. His first name is Gerald. Gerald. Gerald. Yeah, Gerald. What's your last name? What is the surname? Oh man, it's gonna be hard for me to get.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Gerald Durell.

SPEAKER_01 55:51

That's correct. That is who it is. Gerald who?

SPEAKER_00 55:55

Durell D-U-R-R-E-L-L with a British naturalist, writer, zoo keeper, can conversation. Conservationist, he says, conservationist and television presenter.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

Okay, so that is fascinating. I love that he's my guide.

SPEAKER_01 56:15

It's really cool.

SPEAKER_03 56:16

That's so fun.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Yeah, he's he's really not he's like I can kind of get this image of him, and in a way, he he doesn't really look like my dad, but he reminds me that he's heavier, um, and it you know, hair, kind of good, really good hair and a beard, and yeah. So it what he's saying is like she's she's very much for you about keeping the sacred and and the physical together, not separating them. And he's very much about making sure you don't remove the fun from all of it. So there's something, something about your teaching style, it's about being able to talk about something really big, like consciousness or energy or awakening, or you know, some of these topics that seem really big, and then bring it back to ordinary human experience. And and he wants you to understand that's not watering spirituality down, it's actually a gift. And and there are people that you're able to reach that are wondering, am I actually experiencing something or am I making this up? And it's it's that is your gift, being able to bring it to a way that they can ask that question and and understand that they're not, they're actually experiencing something.

SPEAKER_02 57:46

I like that.

SPEAKER_01 57:46

And it's yeah, people who who feel a lot, right? That that you talk to people who, I mean, we're very emotionally sensitive, you're emotionally sensitive, and so you have that, but they're also people that like what he's showing me is they feel a lot of stuff, but then they're also skeptical, isn't the word, but they're they're very they they they want to poke holes in it, they want to ask a lot of questions, yeah. And and that is what he he loves that. He says questioning isn't the enemy of wonder. You don't need certainty in order to investigate, and that's that's a distinction for an intuitive, right? You can notice something and be curious about it, experiment with it, follow it, and laugh when you completely screw it up, change your mind, and that whole process is deeply spiritual.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 58:42

So, yeah. So they what they're saying is there's there's some different parts of your personality. So they want you to just trust the integration of all of that. Okay, and trust who you're becoming publicly, that the one who laughs, gets fascinated, asks weird questions, admits that she doesn't know, gets excited about something that she didn't expect to get excited about, and goes completely off the rails, like off script. That's the clearest spiritual teacher. That's who you are.

SPEAKER_04 59:13

And I will say that that is definitely where I'm being felt, I'm feeling like I'm being led to, and that I want to go on talks and have it be like really off the cuff and be funny, but bring in spiritual healing and just be like, let's riff and let's go. But having a secret space and bringing in people, like let's just talk and let's have the best time ever. That's where I feel like I'm going.

SPEAKER_01 59:38

Yeah. So there are a couple of things, and it's funny because I did a reading earlier today, and almost word for word, this belief came up, and it's for you as well. It's like they're telling me. So when they talk about limiting belief, they want me to be sure I tell you that it's not something that's bad or broken, it's an idea you adopted somewhere along the way that was useful enough for you to believe it. Okay. But but now it's limiting experience that you're ready to have. Gotcha. And that belief right now, the one, the first one that they're dropping to me is that I need to be useful in order to be valuable.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:16

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:17

And it's old and it's not traumatic. It's the belief was reinforced because being useful worked really well for you. And you became competent, right? I'm the helper, I'm the capable one, I'm the one that notices what everyone needs, I'm the one who can hold this, and all those things are true. But the limitation appears for you when the sentence is added, and therefore that is why I matter, and that's what you're doing right now. And they want you to, you know, and you know, of course, Gary and I can help you, you know, get some way to process that down. But if I can sense what someone needs, I should respond to it because that's important for you right now to understand that perceiving a need doesn't create an obligation for you to meet it. Your sensitivity allows you to perceive, but your choice determines your participation in it. Okay. You don't need to make yourself, it's like they they keep showing me it's like these little aliens with these antennas that you know, they're they're doing this little dance, but they say you don't need to make that less sensitive, you just need to stop interpreting every every signal as an assignment, and that's what you're doing right now. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. So that resonates. Yeah. So pre-birth intention, it is it's not, you might think that what you pre-birth intention had something to do with healing, and it's not really that, which is funny. I would thought no, I actually kind of resonate with that. I actually resonate with that because I'm just like sometimes I feel like this.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:49

I'm like, why'd I do this? Like, why did I learn this modality? I don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Well, it's it's it's more of being a bridge to help reconcile things that humans believe are separate. So things that, and they sort of alluded to that earlier. That's the major intention. So think science and spirituality, body consciousness, caregiver-receiver, evidence, intuition. It's these things. You your intention is to bridge things that people believe are very separate. You wanted to see if how you could do that, and it's deliberately choosing experiences that would put you on both sides of what is an apparent divide. Do you understand that?

SPEAKER_03 1:02:29

Annoying. Yes, it's annoying, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:32

It's annoying. It's interesting. Yeah. So you wanted to know like what it felt like to trust physiology to understand systems and to respect sort of observable information. But then you wanted consciousness, it's good. Now what can't you measure, right? So, not so you'd reject the first world, but so that you would become a bridge between them. It's the difference between sensitivity and responsibility, is another secondary intention that you fascinating.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:03

Yeah, it's been very much like a separate life pulling them together, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:09

So, what they want to say to you is that you came here to enjoy being Rachel, not to develop Rachel, not to heal Rachel, not to awaken Rachel, and not to perfect Rachel, to experience her. The personality itself is just a part of the adventure. Okay. Yeah, you got it. Sensitivity without burden, service without self-erasure, knowledge without rigidity. It's it's it's really interesting, but there's this thing that they're saying the next chapter is it's less about healing the healer and more about freeing the creator for you.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:48

That resonates.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

Okay. So there's something that you want to create, expand, teach, write, change, or even do, right? Just because it sounds like fun. And you've kind of been subtly requiring yourself to justify it first. And so they want you to watch out for this belief that is just I can't do it. There should be a good reason for me to do it. And that's what they want you to look out for, right? It's not just I can't do it, it's there should be a good reason for me to do it. And what they want to say, the last thing they're gonna say is wanting the experience is reason enough. Do you understand? Yes, I do. All right, good. Okay, I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:34

Yeah. Wow. That thank you. Thank you. That's a beautiful gift, and that resonates, and I can feel it in my body and my bones, and that resonates a hundred.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Yeah, I can't you feel how much how well they know you? Like, how do you say like it's pretty weird?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:55

It's fascinating. Yes, because it's like it just it's almost like I'm gonna have to sit with this and I'm gonna have to listen to this podcast a thousand times and just be like, oh my gosh, wow, what a I have to look up, I gotta see.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:08

Is your is the website the one that's like with this podcast, or is it no, yeah, it's basically said healing doesn't have to be heavy.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:16

It's on my, it's on my it's it's on my website, akashicangels.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:21

It's that's so great. Because I work with the recorders. Yeah, they just drop it in there just to be cute.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:27

It's it resonate everything you just said resonates because I do struggle with some of the things that you're saying. And I yeah, it's thank you. I don't even know what to say anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:39

Yeah, it's okay. You don't have to say anything. I get how it it's really impactful. I I do one of these every day. You know, lately it's been it seems like it's today, but yeah, we've done a thousand of them and and they're always involved.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:54

Thank you, Chris.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:55

What's unusual is hearing your pre-birth intentions. Most people don't get to hear their pre-birth intentions.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

No, thank you. So there's something elevated or ready in your life to understand that and to it makes sense when she said everything you just said is exactly where I've been, what I've been thinking of. And I know I I know in my bones I'm a bridge, but it's like, what do I bridge? You know, so it's just anything, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:23

Anything that people perceive as two separate things that can't be brought together, that's you. And yeah, they didn't give you all of your pre-birth intentions, and they didn't give you all of your but of course, but they gave you a little drop so that you could maybe relax and go, okay, yeah, I get it. And I'm gonna experience Rachel. Yeah, lean into it, but that was beautiful.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

That was beautiful.

What We Are Here For: Discovery And Fun

SPEAKER_04 1:06:45

That really was okay so before we close this up, after everything that you both have experienced with this work, what do you each believe we are ultimately here to learn or experience as human beings?

SPEAKER_00 1:07:01

What we're learning recently is that we cut our pre-birth intention is like formed in a question. What would it be like to explore that? And so that's all this is. This is an exploration. Discovery is what we're here for. Most humans are oriented towards comfort, safety, certainty. They take a stable job, they save up for retirement, they manage their outcome. That's not what physical reality is. Physical reality is a platform for discovery, discovery of the new, whatever your your pre-birth intention was, some question you wanted to discover, and that's how your life is set up. So if we orient towards exploration, discovery, the new, get out of our comfort zone, you know, follow our follow what lights us up. If you don't know what lights you up, the first step is to look at that belief structure and then understand why you think things are happening to you is only because of a belief that you're unaware of. And then if you're oriented towards this is a great adventure, I get this one shot. This platform is built for this, and I get to experience me following what I'm interested in, then life just life just opens up and moves through you. Life is not separate from you, it's actually your co-creator.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:32

I love that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:33

Anything you want to add?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:34

My answer is far shorter than that. I believe we are here to do nothing except have fun. I love that. And everything is supposed to be fun. There is nothing serious going on at all. So many people, I mean Gary, so many people in our community are that journey of self-discovery is exciting. It's what this exploration, I get that it just doesn't work for me. I don't care about knowing who I am. I really don't. I just want to have fun. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:02

All right, I take back my first answer. I'm going with fun.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:05

I mean, I I love both of you.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:07

Your answer was far more it was deep and it was intelligent.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

And listen, just I'm kind of shallow. No, you're not. You're clear me up, Christy. I want to thank both Gary and Chrissy though so so much for coming to the virtual spotlight series. You both have been truly amazing to share your wisdom and your guidance. And Chrissy, thank you so much for bringing forward that beautiful reading. Thank you both so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:34

Thank you. Thank you for having us.