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Telepathic Bridges: Unlocking Animal Communication
Imagine sitting across from the woman who pioneered an entire field of human-animal connection. Penelope Smith, often called the grandmother of interspecies telepathic communication, shares her extraordinary journey on the Spiritual Spotlight Series with refreshing clarity and wisdom.
From her earliest memories, Smith refused to accept the prevailing notion that animals were "less than" humans. While society insisted animals couldn't think or feel deeply, she knew differently. Her unwavering certainty eventually led her to become a trailblazer in the 1970s, developing methods to help people reconnect with their natural ability to communicate telepathically with animals.
What makes this conversation particularly fascinating is how Smith frames animal communication not as a special gift for the few, but as our birthright that's been socialized out of us. "Most people are socialized out of all their intuitive abilities," she explains. "We're a very analytical society." The path back to this connection requires shifting from our logical minds to deep listening—heart to heart, soul to soul.
Perhaps most profound is Smith's observation that animals have never forgotten their spiritual nature, while humans have. Animals don't get caught in mental loops or identity crises. When asked about their purpose, they respond with clarity—whether it's a dog who says "I'm here to help my person through tough times" or another who simply wants a peaceful retirement after a difficult previous life. This clarity offers humans a mirror for our own spiritual journey.
After decades of teaching worldwide, Smith is offering an unprecedented opportunity—a comprehensive six-month certification program starting September 8th through the Shift Network. For those who've wished to study with this pioneering teacher, this represents a rare chance to learn methods and wisdom she hasn't had the opportunity to share before.
Ready to discover what your animal companions have been trying to tell you? Visit animaltalk.net to learn more about telepathic communication and register for Smith's upcoming programs.
Your relationship with animals—and yourself—may never be the same.
Penelope’s new 6-month training program: https://tinyurl.com/jvatc3s2
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hello everyone. Welcome to our spiritual spotlight series. Today I am joined by penelope smith. She is a grandmother of interspecies telepathic communication. Pelopi, thank you so much for coming on the spiritual spotlight series. I'm so happy you're here. Thank you, I'm glad to be here too. So can you take us back to the beginning? When did you first realize that you could communicate telepathically with animals, and how did that discovery shape your early path?
Speaker 2:Well, I always communicated with animals. I never did not. So as a very tiny child I was always reaching out for animals and I knew that they were just like me, that we were fellow beings. So I just communicated with them and then I didn't fall into the usual socialization that people get with it. You know, I got the same drumming about oh, you're very imaginative, yes, that's, or it's false, or whatever, the usual thing. And of course that's many years ago. Now things are changing.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But I didn't fall for that. I said no way am I gonna, this is too good, I'm not gonna let go of my animal friends or and dishonor them, right, you know? Because the ongoing thought was that, oh, animals are less than they aren't intelligent, they can't feel, they can't think. You know the whole thing. And I said no way, so I'll just keep it to myself. So I, of course, at that age that's a long time ago I never thought about, well, I'm going to be an animal communicator. There was no such thing.
Speaker 2:I mean, I actually became a pioneer, one of the pioneers in the field in the 1970s, but my goal was, my mission in life was always to help people to wake up, to realize who they were, to become happier, because I saw that people didn't know that they were spiritual beings and people really didn't start waking up much to that until the 60s, right, and so you know.
Speaker 2:And then then finally, I could meet some people actually were on that path of recognizing that their spiritual beings are on a conscious spiritual path to grow and to help others, and the whole thing. There were other, obviously, religions and spiritual movements around, but the big movement that changed everything really started in the 60s. So then we had people waking up and so then that was great, and so I became a spiritual counselor for people, and then I applied what I learned with humans to help them through problems and traumas to animals and I found, whoa, animals are so fast and they heal so amazingly quickly. They're so open and willing. So that was the start of it all, and my first client was in 1971.
Speaker 1:And that's just so amazing. And also, like I mean, I feel like, yes, back then, a lot of spiritual people were in the closet and I commend you for being out and doing this work and continuing to do this work, Like it's just so amazing.
Speaker 2:Well, people weren't. You know, it was not the thing to talk about spiritual things and I was extremely spiritual so I just kept to myself about it. And I was extremely spiritual, so I just kept to myself about it. But of course I could talk to the animals and the trees and the sky and all the spirits around me and I just, I wasn't alone, but the humans were pretty dense.
Speaker 1:Yes, very dense. I have a friend that's a mentor of mine and she said that she used's do yoga in Boston. They used to hide like kind of down in a cellar to do yoga in the, you know, in the seventies. It's just, it's fascinating to me. To you know, you are definitely one of the pioneers for this, for this field, which is amazing. So how did your academic background in social sciences influence? Your work in interspecies, communication and emotional healing for animals influence?
Speaker 2:your work in interspecies, communication and emotional healing for animals. Well, I would say that the whole thrust of all work in psychology, sociology is helping others really. But the way they did it was not the way I was oriented. I was oriented more to include the spiritual. So I became a spiritual counselor, focusing on people's spiritual journey as well and, of course, releasing traumas and all your old programs is part of the spiritual journey. But I took a different angle to it than just okay, there's psychological types, etc. Okay, there's psychological types, etc.
Speaker 2:So really it was more part of the whole movement of people waking up in the 70s, 60s and 70s, where people were more open to things like yoga and meditation. It's just started and really getting known widely and so this was natural for me. I went wow, I've always loved animals, of course, and I just went wow, this is so incredible. And what I noticed after I did different sessions with people because people found out I was doing this and I was doing various different people with problems with their animals and behavior or illness or whatever, and then I found that it woke people up. I went okay, I've been doing it this way and helping people to wake up by focusing them on their spiritual journey and how to remember themselves as spirit. But this is so much more gratifying because when people start to realize that animals are spiritual beings, guess what? They go well, gee, you know if they're so aware. And of course, people had no clue that animals were so aware and they would ask me questions like you mean they make decisions, you mean they actually think about themselves.
Speaker 2:And I'm going yes, and so then when people of course, love their animals, but when they woke up to that their animals were more aware and that they could have a dialogue, and it was really up to them to open up the at people and go OK, I'm talking to you, is anybody home, is anybody listening? So then they'd have to do the usual bark at them or paw at them, but if you communicate telepathically, you don't have that barrier anymore. So, yeah, it was very exciting, very exciting time. So I focused on education. There were a few other people who were also doing this work, but they were more focused on the consultations, which was good, yeah. But I said well, we got to wake it up in people. I want to wake this up. I know it's a natural ability right Right.
Speaker 2:Yes, been socialized out of, but it's in here and they're deprived if they don't have this ability. So I went okay, I'll get on every radio program, I'll do every interview magazines, newspapers, tv, you name it. And and lecture, did a lot of lectures to clubs, you know, dog clubs, horse clubs, cat clubs, you know, just waking people going to metaphysical bookstores and waking those people up who thought that only humans evolved, that only humans were conscious. I mean, at that time people had no concept that animals were also spiritually aware, in fact in some ways more spiritually aware than people, because they never forgot and had to regain the consciousness that they were spiritual beings. Playing a dog or cat game, I love that.
Speaker 1:So you kind of just touched on this a little bit. So you believe that everyone is born with the ability to connect telepathically with animals? On this a little bit. So you believe that everyone is born with the ability to connect telepathic animals. What blocks that? What blocks that ability and most people, and how can we begin to restore that?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So most people are socialized out of all their intuitive abilities. You know we're very analytical society, even now. I mean, obviously there's widespread movement that's growing and growing and growing. For the past 50 years, 60 years, you know where people are waking up more and more to their intuitive abilities.
Speaker 2:But most people really doubt it. You know, they go no, I couldn't do it. Even if they think you can do it, they go well, I don't have that. I said, well, actually you do, you know, but it requires a different mode. Said Well, actually you do, you know, but it requires a different mode. It's not a logical mode where you analyze the animal and you go Well, let's see, their head is turning this way. It means this. You know, it's not anything to do with that. It's about deep listening and opening to a whole different reality, a reality of spiritual connection heart to heart, a whole different reality, a reality of spiritual connection heart to heart, soul to soul, connection with other beings that are not your species, so in your experience, I think this is a question I definitely want answered.
Speaker 1:How do animals view humans, and what wisdom do they consistently wish to share with us?
Speaker 2:Well, it depends on what animals you're talking about. They're all individuals.
Speaker 1:So each are going to have different views of people.
Speaker 2:Obviously, our domesticated animals are with us, are used to us, and so you find many animals who come in to this life with the purpose of I'm going to wake my person up, I'm going to help them on their spiritual journey, I'm going to get them through their tough times. They're like really angels, guardian angels. And then there are others who are having a really tough time themselves, and so they kind of mirror to people their own fragility, their own places where they have issues, and so they're working on it together. You know they're helping each other on the path which is we all. All ways are, you know, whatever species we are. But what was the other part of your question?
Speaker 1:I think there was, and what wisdom do they consistently want to share with us?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So again, when you're communicating depends who you're communicating with. Animals have all different kinds of awareness. You know, they're individuals just like humans. So you have humans that are very awake and you have humans that have no clue of who they are, clue of who they are. So you have, generally, animals are very awake to who they are, but they may have be having difficulties in this life, particularly if they're connected with humans. They're connected with humans, they generally take on and get enmeshed with the energy of humans and the life of humans, which is restricted.
Speaker 2:So then, when you're talking about but you'll find incredible wisdom to share and if you ask them about what can I do for my life to make it better, let you know. Okay, I recommend that you take a walk every day, let's go out, you know. Or they'll say, yeah, let's, let's go out and let's look at the birds together. You know, I mean they'll give you things like that, say you're domestic animals. But then it depends on what questions you ask. If you ask your animals what can I do to help heal the planet, or what can humans do to help you heal the planet, then you'll get a vaster, because it's a bigger question. You'll get a vaster answer. And particularly if you ask wild animals, they'll tell you. They'll say well, this is what I see and this is what our species is seeing. This is what we're experiencing and this is how you can help, and particularly when you get the animals that are very in tune to the whole planet, like the whales yeah, you know, they have just vast connections throughout the whole planet, so you'll get. I mean, all you have to do is listen to them and you'll do the right thing. You know you'll do the right thing for the planet and for everybody on it, because that's what they're attuned to. You know they focus on. You know they're a spirit coming in, just like us, right? You know they're a spirit coming in, just like us, right? You know they, instead of in a human body, they're in a whale body or an elephant body or a dog body or whatever, and they focus on doing what it is they're meant to do as a dog or a whale or an elephant, and they also have their spiritual journey. So we're all in this together, right? And when you listen to the animals who, like I said, when I started counseling animals, I went, oh my gosh, they're so fast, unlike with humans, where you take hours and hours and hours to work through a trauma or get a big result, a big change in behavior With animals. I'm going whoa, that was a half an hour session and we just had a complete change in their entire life and that's what blew me away.
Speaker 2:So you're talking about beings who are not all wrapped up in their minds, right? Right, you know. So with humans, humans get lost in their minds. I mean, we have very creative minds, but our minds also have an automatic aspect where they get loops that we can get caught in. And if we aren't masters of our spiritual awareness and our minds and make decisions on how we're going to be clear, or then we get, just get taken away by the mind.
Speaker 2:People get do horrible things because they follow their mind loops and their traumas that are, you know, wrapping them up. And so you know, if you listen to animals, you get a different perspective. You get a perspective on the important things in life. You know it's the same way. When people really clear out their mental confusion, they get to the same conclusions. All the spiritual masters get to the same conclusions and what's really important, like kindness and regarding another being as the same as you, that we're united. You know that you're looking at yourself in the mirror when you're looking at another being no matter what body they have and no matter what they're doing.
Speaker 2:There we are, and so you'll get that from animals over and over again, and they'll also be very honest about their programming. You know their cat programming or their dog programming and they'll say well, this is what I do as a dog and this is what I need, right, you know, and I need this, or a cat, I need this and I need that, and it's very straightforward and there's no if. Oh, dear, I better not do that, like humans do. Oh, maybe that's not good for me, or, you know, instead of just calling it straight and going well, this is what I need as a human and this is what I need to take care of my body. Well, animals, you don't have that confusion.
Speaker 2:Sounds like and there they are. They've got the physical down the emotional. Of course animals can have emotional difficulties. It's mostly domesticated animals, but you'll get some aberrations, some strangenesses in wild animals too, you know, because you get a pretty clear view of what life is about and humans don't have that. I mean some humans do, but I mean I'm talking about it's not real clear for people Right, people are kind of floundering, they kind of go. Well, where's the operator's manual?
Speaker 1:What's my life's mission? What am I here to do?
Speaker 2:What am I to do? What am I exactly exactly and totally unclear about that. Where you ask an animal, they'll just tell you this is what it's about for me, and it may be very mundane. You know, I've had, I remember, a dog who told me well, I came in, I had a very hard life the last life and I came in to take a break. I just want to. It was a dog and he said I just want to sit in the corner, have my meals fed to me, go out for walks, love people and have it pretty quiet. I don't want to be messed with and I don't want complexities. Don't ask me to save the world. I'm here just to chill, you know.
Speaker 2:And then you'll have other dogs who will just tell you you know, they've got a mission to help these people and these people and they're and they're going to um continue, no matter how hard it is, to help people to learn how to love themselves. I mean quite amazing, quite amazing what animals. But they're all individuals. You got to just, you know, realize that you can't say animals or you can't say dogs, because they're individuals. So one dog will say this, another dog will say that, and they'll say different things at different times, but they're pretty clear. You know, the times they get confused are when they've been traumatized, you know. So you get rescued animals who've been beaten or abused. Then they get confusion because they're hurt and they're trying to protect themselves. They're trying to prevent it from happening again and that's where the counseling comes in. Uh, really handy, even for animals I really like that.
Speaker 1:You, you, you, you remind me that it's an individual, the animal is an individual, and also that it just sounds like in the human. We just get so junked up in our mind but the animal is living from a different perspective. And to have that for being the pioneer of this industry, to have that clarity and that clearness, what a, what a gift that has been for you, you know, and for the people that you well, it's a natural thing, see.
Speaker 2:So I don't even understand how people can live without it to be disconnected from trillions of beings who live with us on the planet, to be to think of them as things or that you're far away from them. Or even people who love animals still have this, often have this separation, like, oh, you know what is he thinking, I don't know what's happening with him, why don't you ask him? Oh, I can't do that. And right away all the self-doubt comes in invalidation. And it's the socialization you know. Nobody has showed them what this is and how natural it is.
Speaker 2:And then, once people catch on, it's sort of like this big gap. For a lot of people it's a gap of spiritual awareness of not only who animals are, but who they are. Because if you really know that you're connected right and that you can telepathically communicate with other beings, including humans, right, when you don't have this barrier, right, it's just there and it's natural and you're not afraid. But people get so afraid oh, I don't know if I can do this right, or I'm going to let my animal down, or I'm going to get the wrong answer. You know, I mean only humans do that.
Speaker 1:Yes, I mean, even as you're saying that, I was like, wow it's. I mean I think about my, I have, I have a dog and two cats, and I'm thinking about Gatsby and I, we. He kind of came to us as a rescue but he came right before my brother died and I'm just like, wow, like, and he's been such an emotional comfort for me, as you know.
Speaker 2:I hope I have been for him as well, and it's just like wow, like maybe he came into our life to go through that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, I was like I wish I am, I am. And then I think about my two cats in there. I call them little gang members because I feel like they walk down our hallway like this, like hey, give me my food. I will ask them. They just have such you, and you're right, they, they're their own individuals and they have such unique and they have such unique personalities and they're just and there's so much more to know about them.
Speaker 2:You know, people peg their animals just like they peg people right? They? Put them in little boxes and go well he thinks this way, or he only wants food, he only wants this. How do you even know? We don't, because we didn't ask them, you didn't ask them, you didn't communicate with them. Right, and the same way with people who say, well, animals, they aren't aware of this, they aren't aware that I said how do you even know? Do you communicate with them? Did?
Speaker 2:you find out. You know it's just like pegging people. You know all that kids is dumb or whatever. Well, how would you even know if you didn't get into their world and find out from them what's going on? So, again, these are the barriers that get in the way of this soul-to-soul communication and, again, this natural feeling. It's not unnatural, it's not something weird or unusual, but we have been so socialized, so programmed in our thinking, and this is a shame. You know.
Speaker 2:I see it, the difference in indigenous people and, again, the current indigenous people. He raised their children very close to the earth and the children are all part of the community. They never regard the children. The children oh, he's this little thing that we have to take care of. No, the kid does whatever they can do, right, and they're part of the community from day one, right.
Speaker 2:So I've met young indigenous people. They have a whole different. They don't do all this fudging that young people in our western society do. Oh, mom's unsure of myself, and oh, oh, oh. All this kind of stuff is not there. They're secure. They look around because they're attuned like animals. We are animals, we're human animals, but we've lost our animal nature. An animal is spirit Animal, anima. Anima is spirit, animal anima, anima means spirit. And so when we lose that connection, see, we got back to it right now. If everybody got back to it, they'd live on the earth in a whole different way. You would not have this pollution, you would not have this taking away from the earth or grabbing resources or doing things without considering everyone around you and how we can all share. Right, you know, you don't see a group of elephants going and going. Okay, this is mine, don't you take any of it? No, they just all eat together.
Speaker 1:Right, right.
Speaker 2:It's like their own community that we're missing right now as humans, as community, and so exactly, and the animals can show us, not just by looking at their physical nature.
Speaker 2:Their physical nature is fantastic, it's very beautiful, but if we look only through the human eyes, we make assumptions that are not necessarily the case of what's going on behind. What is the tortoise thinking? What is the wolf thinking? What is happening with them? Now, people who get quiet and they sit with animals, they naturally start opening up telepathically. They start to get the animal's feelings and their thoughts, not the false thoughts of oh well, a bear thinks this way or a wolf thinks, or. I read this in a book. You know people have to get all through that. You wouldn't believe in all the courses I've taught, the things people bring up. They bring up all their socialization.
Speaker 1:This is what I've heard.
Speaker 2:Is this true, Penelope? I said ask the animals, They'll tell you. They'll tell you and you'll find out. It's very different than what humans think. Now some humans are very aware. So you get some very good books, but they're oriented in a different way. To animals as fellow beings, then it's a different thing, rather than animals as those things out there that we have to study.
Speaker 1:No, I love that and I think this is also important because we're going to start talking about. You actually have a six month training that is coming up on September 8th on the SHIP network and it's become certified as an animal telepathic communication counselor upon satisfaction of all program requirements. So I do want to talk about that for a little bit.
Speaker 2:Well, this is pretty phenomenal really. You know, rachel, I had pretty much stopped teaching. Spirit had directed me to just go deeper into the spiritual journey. I mean, I was way, I was past what people consider retirement age and and really everything was leaning that way. And spirit just pushed me and said Nope, no more documentaries, no more public appearances, no more, you're going to stay and you're going to stay in there. And I just and I kept in touch with people, I mean through the website and and emails and stuff, but I didn't. You know, I get people wanting to do documentaries and I'd say I'm sorry I can't do that right now and I would just. And then it all changed. Spirit brought me back, said okay, in 2021, 2021. Spirit said now you're going to go out again. I said, okay, how you know? I mean, of course, it was internet then in 2021. And so I started going on symposiums and started doing, uh, these kind of things podcasts and and and different online classes that people sponsored, and it all started.
Speaker 2:And then I've been working with Shift Network. I've done several courses in the past year Very deep, very beautiful. I totally enjoy working with the Shift Network Fantastic people, a fantastic venue. Anyway, I've taught a foundation course and an advanced course, and now we're going to do something I have never done before, and particularly online. I mean, I've taught courses all around the world, but everything I did was in person, right, right, I footed around the world, I traveled and taught my courses and my training program, but online you have a big, huge potential to do so much more. Yes, you do, you know, even though it's not in person and you miss that. You know contact and you have to change everything online because you know that's what I'm in the middle of in this past year is, oh my gosh, shifting everything from online. When I used to walk out, we used to talk to the mountains and the trees, but right there with them, you know where you could touch.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I'm going. Okay, all right, I have to learn a different way. So now I'm well into it and we're going to do a whole certification program. And this is people.
Speaker 2:When I stopped teaching, people said, oh, I wish I could have studied with you when you were still teaching. I wish I. You know, I kept getting emails all the time saying people oh, are you sure you won't go back and teach, are you sure? I said I don't know. You know, I just follow what spirit guides me right now. I meant to do this deep spiritual work. Right, that's what I'm meant to do here and that's the light that I'm meant to bring to the earth. But here I am, and so I tell people this is really a once in a lifetime thing. I put together all my materials. I'm giving people things I never even had a chance to teach before because we didn't have time.
Speaker 2:I couldn't spend weeks with people. I had to keep moving and reaching more people around the world. You realize that there's generations of animal communicators because of me, and I wanted to reach as many people as I could, and so then they reached people and you know we have all kinds of people and away it goes, and so I didn't have the chance to sit weeks with people and teach them counseling methods and other healing methods. You know, I did. I did teach them and then boost them out and say get out there. And you know, they apprenticed with me and they learned how to teach us and get out there, do it, you know, because we need to reach as many people as possible. And now they're doing it. And now, of course, because since the 70s it was rising, so a lot of people rose up like popcorn all around the planet going oh I have this ability, I can communicate with them. You know, so it's the morphogenetic field, it's just spreads. And so now, here we are.
Speaker 2:I'm going wow, I'm so excited about this program. I'm going to get really deep with people because in this online program we have our integration sessions as well as our class sessions. We have home assignments and then we come back and we get to go over them. So there'll be a lot of mentoring that we couldn't do in our previous courses because of the time, and so we've built that all in and, wow, it's really packed, it's really juicy, it's going to be delicious for people, not only for people who want to be professional animal communicators. But people just want to deep dive, you know, into their own path.
Speaker 2:Obviously, if you're going to do this course, you love animals. You know people are attracted to a program because they they want to communicate more deeply. So this will give you every week. I can guarantee that we're we're going to go deep. Everything is about this is deep dive and you'll learn things that you didn't learn before, that you didn't encounter before, and so it's quite an amazing comprehensive program. I'm going whoa I mean I've got it all laid out and I'm working on it to fill in all the classes. And now, but I would say to people, particularly those people that wanted to study for me for years, do it now. Do it now, because this is not a program that you can then do afterwards because it's all has to be done in person.
Speaker 2:You know I'm going to be going over case studies with people. It has to be done here. You know, obviously people can do the recordings if they miss it because they're in a different time zone or something. But you can't just jump in afterwards and go, oh well, I'll do the certification later. It might not be done again and you know I'm up in years now. I mean you have to be realistic. I mean. So I say okay, if you want to study with me, if you want to study with me and if you want to take a viewpoint of really inclusiveness of all beings. This is where I'm, where I come from. You know this communication applies to every kind of being, whether we're talking about animals or mountains, or rivers, or spirits who have gone on. It applies to everybody.
Speaker 1:One of the things go ahead, yeah, sorry. No, no, don't be sorry, no, one of the things that I like that this program is for end of life support and grief counselors, and I like the fact that you touch upon and I'm sure you go deep in offering compassionate guidance and how do you manage a practitioner through that and why do you feel that that is, that this program is beneficial for you know somebody that maybe is a grief counselor or end of life support?
Speaker 2:It's very important that one of the things that I've found is that relieves people a lot from their suffering of a loss of an animal friend is learning how to communicate with them beyond and feeling that deep connection. It's no different than communicating with them in person, other than you don't have that soft fur body to touch. But what happens with people is they get rid of the guilt. See a lot of people run guilt trips on themselves.
Speaker 1:That hurts them so much.
Speaker 2:They suffer so much. Oh, if only I did that, if only I did that, you know, and it's so awful. But the animals never hold anything against people and they'll tell you. They say, ah, I had a great life with you, it was wonderful. Yes, I had to die. You know, it's the way it is. You have to die one way or another through a disease, or you get hit by a car or whatever. You know, the body gets eliminated one way or another because you have to move on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they'll tell you, you know, and they'll, they'll thank you for your connection with them and the love, and the love carries on and you just don't disconnect from your friends. You know, no matter who has gone on, you'll find that. You know, it's the great recycling center. You know we come back from different lives and we meet beings that we knew before. You know we have our soul family and we meet them again. You just don't divorce from somebody you love like that. You know, like the animal is gone, oh, I'll see them in the beyond. Well, why not now Exactly? Why not be connected? Why not connect with them now and feel them? Right? You know, sometimes I mean, I've had the experience of animals going on and there's so much right here. I'm holding them in my arms and I can feel them, and then people will see them out of the corner of their eyes. They'll see a little flash of their animal going by. There's all different ways. They communicate to you and let you know they're there, you don't lose them. And then you want your questions answered so you know, like what happened. Why did this have to be? And the animals will help you with that. And so, for grief counselors or for people who are healers in any way, or for animal trainers, everything we do here will enhance whatever it is that you're doing.
Speaker 2:So, like I talk to trainers, I say you know, I'm not an animal trainer, but what I do when I, in quotes, train animals is I just tell them what I need and then why they need to do it, like with dogs. Okay, I need you to sit, this is how you do it. Okay, you got that. But I only need you to sit in these situations with people who are nervous around dogs, or blah, blah, blah. We don't need to have it like a robot. You don't have to, like, constantly command the dog and sit. So I do it my own way. But I said, okay, your trainers incorporate the telepathic communication, they'll understand better. Yeah, and also please give them a reason why they're doing it.
Speaker 2:You know animals really catch on to things really fast. Like, if you have a service dog, they're right in on that. They came in to be that service dog. You know they're going right. Right, I got it. I got it. I got it. You know they get everything really fast. But some things are confusing that people want animals to do or they're against the animal's nature.
Speaker 2:You know, like the cats like to go to high places. So they're always sitting on your counters. Or, you know, in your face by your computer or whatever. So you explain to them because you have a different viewpoint. You know, as a human, you know they don't care about that computer screen or they'll look at it and they'll bat at it. You know if they see another cat on it. But you explain to them. I really that's helps me to communicate with other people. Oh, okay, so sit up in the way of the screen. I got it. I got it. Or, you know, on the counters. Well, you know, I'm okay with you being on the comms, but I don't really want cat hair in my food. So when I'm eating I really don't want you right next to me with the hair floating into my food.
Speaker 2:You know you explain it and they get it. And then you work with them on the boundaries. You know. I mean I've said I had conversations with my cats like, ok, you're sticking your head in my bowl. Do I stick my head in your bowl when you're eating? No, you like your food, you don't want me If I stuck my head in your bowl. You like your food, you don't want me If I stuck my head in your bowl. You would be very upset about that. So I like it either. And they go oh right, I get it. You know you just set the boundaries. You talk to them like you would talk to anybody. Yeah, absolutely. And it becomes, everything becomes easier. So I would say anybody in an animal related field you're going to find this is going to be helpful to you.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So another thing that you've brought together with this six month mentorship program, certification program, is that you actually have an impressive group of guest faculty like Tammy Billups and Val Hart. How do their teachings complement your vision for this program like?
Speaker 2:Tammy Billups and Val Hart. How do their teachings complement your vision for this program? Well, they add on so beautifully because these people have specialized in certain areas. Oh nice. You know, like all through my career, I brought up things throughout time that other people then took as a specialty. So they became really, really good at it and they can teach people in a different way because that's their thing, right? So I took some of these people and most of them are trained with me and I took them and I said Would you do this? Of course, but you know they've been doing this for 30, or even 40 years some of them, and so they've been doing this for 30 or even 40 years some of them. And so you know, because I started training 50 years ago, so they're really good at what they do, so it adds a different perspective. Of course, everybody has their own talents. Everybody has their viewpoints. You always learn from different perspectives. There isn't any one way of looking at things, as we find out in life.
Speaker 1:It's so very true. I'm just thinking about I'm actually a registered nurse in my day job and I run a doctor's office and everybody looks at even a patient. Everyone has a different viewpoint. It's a different perspective. It's so true. So I love that. For someone that's feeling the call to join your September program but maybe they're unsure if they're ready I put that in quotations what would you say to encourage them to trust the journey?
Speaker 2:event coming up which is May 10th, and it will be replayed. And then, if you miss both of the replays, you get a recording and it's it gives you a real taste of what telepathic communication is, what you can do with it, and I'd say that's a good entry point for people you know. I mean, of course I have my books also and I have all my educational materials on my website, but I'd say, if you're interested in this program, that's the way to go. Yeah, as you go and go, you can go to my website, animaltalknet, go to the events page and there's a link right to register for this event.
Speaker 1:Perfect.
Speaker 2:And it's very comprehensive. Like I said, the Shift network they do things right.
Speaker 1:Well, and I like the fact that you're saying like look, I have things that I haven't had time to bring out, like it's almost like a vault experience of hey I, this is something I haven't taught on, I know it, but you know, I love that. It's like this intimate part is.
Speaker 2:I have been doing this for a long time, all these different things, but I didn't have a chance to teach people. You know, we could only do so much in person, you only. You know one body. You can only go to so many places. You can only reach so many people. And online, wow, limitless. Yeah, it brings the world to you instead of you having to go all around and then reaching only a certain amount of people. I mean, I loved it in terms of the personal connection.
Speaker 1:And for our last question.
Speaker 2:You have trained thousands and been called the grandmother of this field. What has it meant to watch your teachings ripple across the world through your students? Well, I actually knew this was going to happen and I wrote about it in my first book, animal Talk. I said I see it and I see that this will become, you know, sort of a household world.
Speaker 1:And that was my goal.
Speaker 2:You know. So I just went, I've watched it through the years. I go oh, now we're reaching another point. Now it's the 80s. People are waking up even more. Now there's a bump up. Now there's many more teachers and recently, in the last five, 10 years, there's been a huge bump up of where the consciousness of people has been raised.
Speaker 2:So now it's not unusual for people to say well, what can animals teach us? I mean, people didn't even think that way 50 years ago. I mean, what can animals teach us? Teach us, you know. And now it's the going thing. You know, what can we learn from animals? How can we learn to live a better way? How can we heal the earth? I mean, these are questions people are asking. I mean, so it's very gratifying, but really I knew it and it was natural to me and I just did what I was here to do. I followed spirit direction and to me it's right, you know, and I see all these beautiful people, people I've trained and people who have been trained by other people, and they're doing such good work and again they have their own talents, their own specialties, which is all beautiful.
Speaker 1:I love that and I love that you followed your mission and that you didn't deter and that you've been able to see this unfold, and it's truly fascinating and amazing. You've been able to see this unfold and it's it's truly fascinating and amazing. So I want to thank you, penelope, so much for coming on Spiritual Spotlight Series. I really hope that everyone signs up for your six month course, because it's going to be truly amazing and inspirational for anyone that does it. So thank you so much for coming on. Thanks, rachel, love talking with you.
