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You Don't Need All the Answers to Heal: Erin Panzarella’s Transformational Path

Rachel Garrett, RN, CCH/ Erin Panzarella

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What if healing didn’t require reliving every painful memory? Join us for an inspiring conversation with Erin Panzarella, a spiritual mentor and quantum healer whose life story is a testament to transformation and resilience.

 Adopted and having faced abandonment issues after her father's early death, Erin found herself battling anxiety and depression. Yet, through her mother’s Reiki practice, she experienced a profound spiritual awakening that set her on a path of healing and self-discovery. 

Erin’s journey emphasizes how energy work can release stored emotions and trauma without needing to remember every detail, offering hope to anyone navigating their healing journey.

Throughout this enlightening episode, we journey through the complex terrain of somatic healing and energy work, exploring how these modalities can regulate our nervous system and help us stay grounded. 

Erin shares her insights on the balance between experiencing emotions and striving for presence, teaching us that feeling safe and connected in our bodies is vital for healing. We delve into the importance of honoring our current state and embracing authenticity as foundational steps in personal growth, all while learning to appreciate the rich tapestry of gifts we each bring to the world.

We wrap up our discussion by exploring the diverse talents within the spiritual community, with a special focus on the unique abilities of psychic and Akashic record readers. 

Erin reminds us of the power in perseverance and the importance of sharing our light, even when faced with challenges. By holding space and staying true to our purpose, we can make meaningful contributions to the collective consciousness. 

Don’t miss this opportunity to be inspired by Erin’s story and discover how you, too, can tap into your own inner strength and wisdom.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, Welcome to our Spiritual Spotlight Series. Today I am joined by Erin Pantabella. I love saying her last name, it's super fun. She is a spiritual mentor and quantum healer. Thank you so much for coming to the Spiritual Spotlight Series. I'm so happy you're here. I'm so happy to be here. So we're just going to jump right in, Erin, and your journey is both inspiring and transformational. Can you maybe start by sharing a bit about your background and how your experience as an adopted child have shaped your spiritual path?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. So we'll start at the beginning. Like you said, I'm adopted and also 11 days before my fifth birthday my dad passed away. So I would say that this like core wound sort of developed from both, you know, being adopted and my dad passing away so young. So this fear, I would say, of abandonment was really really big in my life. So, of course, you know, I was very young so I didn't really understand this and I was so convinced subconsciously that I was broken that everyone was going to leave me. And it really impacted the way that I showed up in my day-to-day life through childhood, through preteen teenage and early adulthood. So I went down a pretty dark path for many years because I really was trying to fix myself.

Speaker 2:

I thought I was broken but I didn't realize how big of an impact the grief that I had was really like weighing on me and I think, being adopted and also losing my dad so young. A lot of people don't really know how to approach that subject. So even I was one of the only adopted people that I knew and I feel like everyone didn't know how to approach the topic of adoption and then when my dad passed away, no one spoke about death. So there was these things coming up within me that I felt like I couldn't talk about with people, up within me that I felt like I couldn't talk about with people and I had a lot of, I would say, repressed sadness, grief, anger, whatever it was, that kept bubbling up to the surface and I really didn't know how to manage it. So, like I said, I kind of felt like I was broken. I felt like I was very different. I felt like I was weird and in my first year of college I tried out for a sorority and I really didn't want to do it but everyone was doing it and this whole group of you know girls, women rejected me and that sort of experience really brought that core wound that I'm broken and I'm different up to the surface to a point where I could not ignore it anymore. So I really started to fall into like a deep depression.

Speaker 2:

I had a lot of anxiety and my mom, who had been a Reiki master healer for many years some of the things that she was doing I was so resistant to. You know, I thought my mom was doing this weird stuff. You know, friends would come over when I was younger and I'd be like they're like, what is your mom doing in the basement? I was like I don't know, she does this weird things. But some of the modalities that she started to use, I became really open to using them because I was so desperate to feel better.

Speaker 2:

I just knew that the way that I was living my life, I was not going to be here much longer if I continue down that path. And I definitely know that so much of my own spiritual healing journey has been connecting with those core wounds, connecting with like what impact being adopted had, what impact losing my dad so young, had. And really the thread that my mom sort of planted with spiritual healing journey is one that I've been on now for like almost 15 years at this point and it has been, you know, so transformational. But that's really what led me to the journey for sure.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So what was it about your first experience, you know, with a Reiki healer probably your mom that resonates with deeply and inspired you to need to pursue more of a career in spiritual healing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love this question I'm going to share, actually, one that's not related to my mom. So when I was so, when I was younger, though, I would have really horrible menstrual cramps and that was the only time I would let my mom do Reiki on me, because I was like in so much pain. So she would be like, let me do Reiki, and I was like, okay, okay, fine, and it did help. So there was this little like inkling of like okay, whatever she's doing, like sort of works, like whatever it is. I don't get it, it's weird, but something works. But I feel like so much of the beginning of my own spiritual healing journey was connecting to spirituality aside from my mom, like without her, because I really needed to explore it on my own. Now we have so many conversations about it, but really in the beginning it was like, okay, let me do everything I can like without her.

Speaker 2:

So I went to a Reiki healing circle at a yoga studio like near. My friends were like, hey, you want to go to this Reiki circle? And I was like, yeah, sure, it was the first time I was ever in a Reiki circle and I just saw, you know, going with some friends to a yoga studio. I didn't really have an idea of what was going to transpire there and that Reiki healing circle was one of the most transformational healings I've ever received in my life. I essentially had sort of flashbacks of past lives. I connected with Christ consciousness for the first time where, like, jesus came into this Reiki healing circle and I grew up Jewish, so I really had no connection. Yeah, I really was like what is Jesus doing here?

Speaker 2:

But I really had this huge awakening in that experience that was so monumental because prior to that Reiki healing circle, because of my own abandonment wounds, because of the way I was navigating, because of fear of people leaving me, I had a really animate wounds. Because of the way I was navigating, because of fear, people leaving me, I had a really big pattern of lying. I would like hide. I was so afraid to like show people my authentic self. I was like living in secret and so many things.

Speaker 2:

I had so much shame and after this Reiki healing circle I have like no desire to show up, like in that lying, in that secrecy, and it was something that was such a big healing within me that I was completely transformed after that one circle and I was like after that it was kind of like, okay, I'm sold, like let's dive in to whatever we can here. But in that Reiki healing I felt unconditional love like I had never felt before before. I had seen past lives where energy was getting like pulled out of my body, this like dark energy that I'd held on for so long, and I saw this all happening. I never had experiencing like experience like that before that. It really was so transformational for me.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That sounds so amazing. So one of the things that you've mentioned is that you don't need to know your lineage or your heritage to heal. Can you maybe elaborate on this and explain how someone can begin their healing journey without this knowledge?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love this question. So, even like, even with this experience, like in this Reiki healing, so much healing happened to me, but I didn't really consciously know what I was healing. So there was a lot of things that came up, like I said, with a past life, like I had no idea about any of that. That was the first time I ever experienced it and when I was in this Reiki circle I was so open to receive this, like knowing of my own innate wholeness. I really believe that's what healing is, that something transformed within me that I didn't need to consciously know. And I feel a lot of the times on my own healing journey, you know I would connect with different teachers and I would find they were like, okay, connect with your inner child. But I was someone who barely had any memories of who I was before my dad died. You know I had a lot of things blocked out from traumatic experiences in my childhood that I didn't have conscious memories of, like what the joyful inner child was. Yeah, I didn't have conscious memories of what happened when I was adopted. Like I know that something happened, like energetically, but I don't remember the moment I was born and then being pulled from like the birth mother. Yeah, really, my work was like how do we work with the energy of it? How do you work with the subconscious, who, I mean, I believe, has the memories even if we don't have to consciously remember it? And I really decided to dive into how can we, instead of like getting obsessed with talking about the past or obsessed with, like trying to figure out the root cause, in a way that just like talking it out, I was like how can we get to the energy underneath, how can we get to the beliefs that are existing without necessarily needing to recall the memories there? And that work has been so amazing. It's been hard.

Speaker 2:

I definitely, as I started to heal, I started to recall more memories and I'm someone who believes that number one, you don't have to remember everything, like I'm definitely living proof. To do big healing, you don't have to remember things. And also, when it's relevant for our own healing, in the moment, the memory will surface Absolutely. So I really started to take this, you know this, knowing that just because he doesn't, I can't remember, it doesn't mean I can't heal it. It doesn't mean that I'm broken. This like running theme of like thinking I'm broken, like no, there's just. There's nothing wrong with me. My body is doing what it needs to. My brain is doing what it needs to to protect me. And if I'm meant to recall something, I will. And so many memories have come up to the surface for me to explore.

Speaker 2:

But I started this work without remembering anything, like I really had absolutely no memory of so much of my childhood preteen. Like my friends used to joke, it's like someone took an eraser to my brain. It really was like so interesting. I was like why is my brain doing that? Out of curiosity. But I realized that I couldn't just go surface level with my healing. I had to go do that energetic and the subconscious underneath it.

Speaker 1:

I think I love how you just answered that, because it brings up such a valuable point that you don't have to go and rehash every single trauma and every single memory in order to be able to heal. You know the energy will go to where it needs to go. It will release what needs to be released when it's ready to go, like I. Just I resonate that so much as being an energy healer, which I'm sure you are as well. You are as well. It's just we don't have to know everything. You just got to get in and do the work and you don't. It's like I. But I feel like sometimes we get stuck on. Well, what happened when you were four? What does it matter? What happened when I was four? Like, I'm ready to heal, girlfriend.

Speaker 2:

I know and I was someone I like you know I did try I get. I got tripped up by it.

Speaker 1:

Like I think I did as well, for sure, and how I explaining how it works too. It just does.

Speaker 2:

It just does yeah, completely and even just um.

Speaker 1:

There's so many things like I'm not sure if you heard of like the body keeps score.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just so many elements of that deeply resonated with me, cause I was like, even if I can't remember, my body remembers. How can I connect with my body in a way that's helping me release the energy here, somatically, like through breath work, whatever modality, through energy healing, whatever modality is really most resonating for you in this moment? But connecting to movement pieces with my body and getting into the body and even a really big opening into this work was yoga for me.

Speaker 2:

And I realized like, oh my God, when I do a hip opener, I start to like release all these emotions that I have no idea where they're coming from. So I did have to also like really get this connection with my body and like being present with the body in order to release things. And, like I said that you don't have to remember what you're releasing. You know that you're releasing when you start doing a hip opener and you're hysterically crying for no reason. When you're like connecting and like dancing to a song and you can like feel emotions of it, you know that something's moving through your body when you're engaging in those practices.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and you kind of bring up. A really valuable point is that can you explain the significance of somatics in nervous system regulation and the healing process?

Speaker 2:

I think it's one of the most important parts. I think it's one of the most important parts and I think it's very nuanced as well because there's, I believe, that so much of our healing is getting back to the knowing that we are already whole and we're safe. So we are safe to you know, connect in this moment. And so much of my own abandonment issues from when I was younger really was like I'm not safe, like I'm going to be abandoned, so I'm going to die, essentially Like that's a very deep rooted, just survival mechanism that we have as humans. When I started to connect the body piece into it by getting into practices that brought me out of that trauma response, that fight or flight or the freezer fun brought me out of the sympathetic nervous system into the parasympathetic nervous system, into this rest and digest mode, into a place that reminds my body that I'm safe. Because I know, with my own spiritual practices, the connection that I have spiritually is so connected to am I being present here in this moment. And I really know that we cannot be present if we're constantly in a heightened nervous system, if we're constantly feeling unsafe. It's literally impossible for us to feel present. So, using the nervous system regulation tools that we have is so vital to connecting to this number one, like knowing that you're safe, and also like expanding you into a life that you want to be living, a life of joy, a life, like I said. I think all of these tools are really bringing us back to presence, so, like, can we get present in the here and now? Can we respond to something right here, right now, rather than respond from a past mindset? Right, can we respond to what's happening right here, right now, like when I'm having this conversation with you, in a way that's not so rooted in, like what my mother said that hurt me 20 years ago.

Speaker 2:

So true, and I know that, with the body keeping the score, when I get into these heightened nervous system states from interacting in the world, it's really my responsibility to say like, okay, like, how can I get back to this, knowing that I'm safe?

Speaker 2:

How can I get back to this, knowing that I'm safe? How can I get back to this, knowing that it's okay also to like be heightened at times, I think, with nervous system regulation work. I absolutely love that it's becoming more widespread and I also feel a lot of the times we'll get into this idea that you have to be calm all the time, and I am like someone who's very guilty of like over-regulating, like getting myself out of my life by over-regulating and by like thinking, like, oh, like, if I'm feeling a heart palpitation, I have to stop and go use a tool. Wow, and now I'm like okay, how can I live in my life, have like this expansion of capacity to experience what's going on in my day-to-day life, use the tools of nervous system regulation wherever I can, and also know that, like, so much of this purpose is like how do I respond in my day-to-day life without overusing the tools as well?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I really liked that you you mentioned a lot about being safe and also about that it's okay to feel your feelings, it's okay to feel within your body, and it sounds like for you, balance is super important. Like we may, and I feel like, even as spiritual practitioners, we swing so far to, oh, I've got to do this in the light and use these tools, and then we swing back over to we're not present. So how do you? It sounds like being balanced is super important to you and how do you manage that when you know that you're feeling the pendulum swing back and forth?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love this, and balance is a really big word that's been coming up lately and I am horrible at balance.

Speaker 1:

Aren't we all, so please teach us I don't be the first to admit.

Speaker 2:

We try so hard, we try so hard and I will be the first to admit that like it's hard to find balance and I think that, yeah, I think that so much of this human experience is that contrast, is feeling all the feelings, feeling this whole range of spectrum, and I think that's the thing that I think is. And really I mean what you just mentioned of like how can I allow myself to feel? Whatever is coming up sort of feels like balance to me, because it's like saying like okay, if I let myself go into the deep sadness, if I let myself go into the anger, if I let myself go to these places, I will also let myself experience, like, the joy that this world has to offer.

Speaker 2:

I'll let myself experience the beauty of the world rather than just the horrible things that are going on, and balance is something that I look to strive for. But I feel like I'm like always like all right, we, the pendulum swings and I'm just how can I really, like I said, expand my capacity to say like okay, when this is going on, let me really connect to myself in a way that's going to help me be present. So constantly bringing myself back into the present moment has been the way that balance is like the most attainable for me. But, like I said, I'm also horrible at it. I think I think that it's an ever evolving journey.

Speaker 2:

We're never really in balance is a really big like thing that I would love to experience in my life and also know that like it's okay if I'm not feeling balanced. You know, sort of accepting what is feels like balance to me, like accepting the emotions, accepting what is and also recognizing like where is my personal responsibility, Like really connecting to what do I have, what is my responsibility and what's not, yeah, and that brings me more into balance. So I'm not kind of going all over the place trying to search or trying to control things I can't control. Over the place, trying to search or trying to control things I can't control. So I think coming back home to what is my responsibility and what's not, and how can I take radical responsibility, is, like, my best key tip for navigating balance, for sure, and I also think, a gentle, like being gentle with yourself.

Speaker 1:

you know, I think sometimes we get so fixated on our spiritual journey and our spiritual path and where we are, and it's like sometimes we just need to maybe, maybe take a pivot and maybe maybe just sit on the bench for a minute you know, and then just it's okay yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think that it's so important that you mentioned that, because I was someone you you know, even with these ideas of like connecting with your higher self and expanding into that ideas.

Speaker 2:

I absolutely love like I do a lot of that in my work, but I was kind of like pedestalizing the higher self as this version of me. That was better and I was, yeah, and I was like trying to like meet the standard of my higher self. I was, you know, I was trying to like achieve what I thought the life that my higher self would be living was, and I kept falling short because it was this impossible standard I was making for myself. So, like sometimes we just got to like go sit on the bench, like be here now, and I think a lot of the times we'll get like obsessed with like oh, am I living my life in alignment in the perfect way? When really like it's not about perfection at all. It's really like how can I take like one messy step, one messy action forward and like give myself so much grace in this process?

Speaker 1:

That's such a that's such a good point and I really like that. You kind of brought up your higher self and it's you're right, it's almost as idolized, it is an idolized version of ourselves. And where are we being authentic in this process to our true selves, you know, while trying to achieve this higher self essence?

Speaker 1:

So, and that is a struggle and I can be, I can feel the tug of war, and sometimes it's like again, we are a soul having a human experience and how are we honoring our human experience by trying to be our higher self? Like it's an interesting. So you're bringing up a lot of very good, valid points. Today I'm like, hmm, reminder to self, but it's a good point because I know for even for myself, like struggling, like okay, bring in your higher self and make sure to connect and make sure to do this and make sure to be centered. And it's like, well, why don't you just be, you know, why don't you just chill?

Speaker 2:

I know, and that's why, that's why I feel like the balance of it is so hard, because we can, you know, I think I know personally, when I connect in meditation just like 10 minutes, if I'm connecting consistently I feel better, but if I'm saying, if I didn't meditate today, there's something bad. That's where we get into like a little bit of sticky you know, sticky situations. I'm like how do I hold the nuance that showing up for myself consistently feels really good and I feel really like settled in my body and it really is helpful, without getting into that perfectionism or like the like if I don't do it then I'm bad, sort of thing and you're very authentic with you, know how you are, which I would imagine that translate to like your membership groups and like to how you.

Speaker 1:

you know your coach or clients and I know one of the things that you do is you have a mentorship method that's designed to help anyone heal, you know, regardless of their past. Can you maybe describe some of these methods and how they differ for maybe some traditional healing practices?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure, and I think I mean authenticity is really one of my big values, because I lived a life like that was really inauthentic. You know I lied all the time. So I like to approach it as like, come as you are, like I'm like this is a safe space for you, like I definitely know the importance of creating safe spaces. I also know the importance of being trauma informed of, like not going too much too fast, like that's really what I believe trauma is is too much too fast where you're not having the capacity, and I've been in spaces where they went too much too fast and they weren't aware of what impact that was having. So I'm definitely mindful of that in my spaces.

Speaker 2:

But I take a multi-dimensional approach because I know that there's so many different elements. I also know there's so many different modalities, so many different practices. I know, like, in certain parts of my life, really like connecting with somatowork and my body is really, really important for me in that moment. And then I also know that there's other parts, when I'm connecting in the Akashic records, which is very much like taking a higher spiritual perspective rather than like the nitty-gritties of human life, like some points, that's really important for me. So I'm like, how do we approach this from a holistic level rather than one size fits all? Yeah, and I, you know, I've had the privilege of doing this work for, like I said, almost 15 years now, where I've dove into so many different modalities. I've seen what works, I've seen what doesn't. Yeah, I'm definitely a spiritual seeker in that way, and I know that there's up and downs of the human journey. So I'm going to be someone who sits with you in the ups and sits with you in the downs.

Speaker 2:

I think a lot of the times we're afraid to show those parts of ourselves. We're afraid to show up when we're down. We're afraid to show up in our shame. We're afraid to show up when we're down. We're afraid to show up in our shame. We're afraid to show up in our sadness. We're afraid to show up in all of it. So the tools that I have is number one how do we honor whatever is going on right now and then? We have to honor it first and then we can work on shifting it if you feel called to shift it. I found that honoring it and letting it be as it is is like the key piece in shifting what's happening.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. It's almost like once you uncover that layer, I feel like energies will align to help you shift and heal it. You know, and it's kind of like you and I are very similar in the fact that you know we we have a lot of healing modalities that we're trained at, but you're going to bring what's best for that client in that moment, and it may be the records, it could be moving your body, it could be quantum healing, it's like. But you know intuitively what to bring to them and they'll meet you, you know what, with what they need as well, and I like that meet you, you know what, with what they need as well, and I like that it sounds very intuitively driven your programs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I love the way that you just said this too, because I believe that the person who I'm working with they're the one who has the answers with themselves.

Speaker 1:

They just bring the you just, you just uncover the light Like you know they heal themselves and they empower themselves. And I and I, and I I really appreciate that you bring that up as well, because I think sometimes it's like, well, I'm up on this pedestal because I'm the healer, no, we're all in the same playing field here, guys, and I'm going to get, I'm going to help you, but ultimately you're going to choose to heal yourself because some people, they're good, they don't, they don't need that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

It's like on my journey. I'm fine and I'll come back to you in 10 years when I'm ready.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, completely yeah, and I think that that's like another core piece, like I feel like I want to show up authentically, to like let else also know. Like I'm not perfect, please do not put me on a pedestal.

Speaker 2:

I am your guru, like you are the one who gets to have responsibility for your life, so I can, like you know, guide with the tools that we have, but I know it's it's really all you.

Speaker 2:

And like, when people thank me, like I'm always like I received that, thank you so much. And also like, please thank yourself in this as well I received that, thank you so much. And also like, please, thank yourself in this as well, where you were the biggest part of this equation and I know what it's like to get onto the spiritual path and put people on pedestals. I like to think that they know me, that they're more present, they're more aligned with their higher self than me and I'm and I know that using the tools that I've had have helped me get to the spot. That it's like I am you and you are me, like we are really like all this, like collective connection, like we are all one Absolutely and we're really rooted in that. I think that we can have way bigger of an impact on the people that we work with, the people who hold space for, yeah, knowing like we are, like you said, we're on the same level.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and we're all like I feel like we're collective consciousness, like we're all here together for one purpose, you know, and it's it's interesting to see how that falls out. And I do think that sometimes we do have a tendency and I know I'm guilty of it myself where I'm like, well, I read the records, but why, why am I not psychic? Like it's just like you know what I mean. It's like you get that, compare itis. And then I have to remind myself like okay, like let me honor where I'm at with my gifts, and I respect the fact and I appreciate the fact that you can do all of that and let's work together to bring out all of this knowledge and wisdom, like, and I, it's like we can be in awe of each other, like not in awe of, well, that person.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm. I love this point too, because so much of what I want to like convey to people is like we all have a special, unique gift within us. Yes, like, yes like you know, when I like help people in reading their own records, I'm like it might look completely different than the way that I read records amen yeah, like, and I and I'm like, and neither of those things is wrong, like.

Speaker 2:

I remember believing I wasn't psychic because I didn't connect with the other side in the way that I saw mediums and psychics do and I like really had an experience in the records where they were like that is not your purpose here.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that you had that experience. I really do, because I do think we get, we shame ourselves.

Speaker 2:

It's like, well, you and yes, I love that you had that experience, yeah, I mean, and it really was life-changing for me, wow, I can feel it. I can feel it.

Speaker 1:

It's like yes, Because you're right, it's not part of your purpose.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not. It's part of, like I know, a lot of really gifted mediums and psychics. I definitely believe I have psychic energy as well and it looks completely different and like I have a lot of clients that are psychics and I'm like it's so cool that you come to me for the record. You would think that like okay, if they have the like, the gift of clairvoyance or whatever.

Speaker 1:

But it's like it's different, it's a different channel, it's a different thread and and and. And I'm sorry, aaron, like I'm hijacking your interview, but it's like what you're saying is resonating with me so much as a cause. I'm also an Akashic record reader and it's very much like I've had the same challenges and same with my friends, mediums and this and that and. But I've it's like, it's okay, I'll be like be like listen, if you want to take a grandma, here's my friend, here's my pal.

Speaker 2:

But if you want to know your soul's purpose, let's go. I know, yeah, and it's. It's such a beautiful like interwoven web. Yes, because I I know that we're all here. We all decided to come here at this point in time together for a specific reason, for like this awakening. So for all of us to have the same gifts would be like very boring, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It'd be like Rachel in five years. You're going to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it'd be very boring and like, even with that too, like a lot of the times I'll like connect in the records and certain things are not like, I can't see them and I'm like I know for a fact you are not meant to know this.

Speaker 1:

Yes, there's a reason why it's not being shown there's a reason why it's not coming forward. You don't need to know this right now. It's not meant for you to know it now, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I think, just like you know, like the butterfly effect, I'm like if you knew this right now, you're going to change, You're going to change all of it.

Speaker 1:

I bet you and I have the same spiel in our readings. I'm like, listen, you could leave this reading and take a left when in the records it's going to take a right and everything has changed. Yeah, I love that, I love that. That's so true. And I think you you also bring up a point of you're not going to, you're not going to make up or embellish things in a reading just so somebody can get an answer, and that's okay. It may not be the time for you to reveal that answer, it may not be time for you to know and be okay with delivering that message. And I think sometimes, as a healer and as a reader, people do get hung up on that. Well, I better tell them something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. And I think that's when, like coming back to, like just holding space for someone and safe space is more transfer, more like transformative than anything. So I've had to come back to that time and time again, especially as, like a healer and reader, it's like you want them to have the best experience. You want to heal everything in this world.

Speaker 1:

Do it now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you put so much pressure on yourself and I always have to come back home to the knowing. Like me, just showing up and being here and present with them is transformative enough.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and sometimes just sitting in the energy is all that they need. You know, you may not even have it, doesn't even matter what you've said and what you've communicated, it's just the energy that's being transmitted and the channel to them. Sometimes that's all that they need. So, before I wrap up this amazing interview, where is the best place for somebody to go to that want to learn more about you? I know you have a podcast. You have. You have a lot of offerings. Where's the best place for them to go to?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I definitely go to my Instagram, so that's at Aaron Panzarella. My website is also Aaron Panzarellacom. I do have a free Facebook group where I'll do free Akashic records readings and like you can just like, come, have a safe space for your to hang. So that's spiritually embodied lightworkers on Facebook and those are like the places really to find me.

Speaker 1:

I love it. So for our last question. So, based on your extensive experience and challenges that you've overcome, what? What is one piece of advice that you would offer to our listeners who, maybe, are seeking to heal and transform their lives?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, love this question. Um, I mean, the words literally just came in like keep going. Um, I know right now energy is very heightened, um, and I feel very, very certain that you have the capacity to handle whatever energy is coming up. And, as I shared before, we all came here right here at this time. I believe we chose to be here together right here, right now. So, if there's any doubt that you have, my message to you is like keep going. Like, if you are tired, rest and then keep going Like really the world needs your gifts right now. They need your light, and it is not doing the world any favors for you to like hide, for you to doubt yourself. So keep going, do it messy and really like. The world needs your magic and your gifts amen.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, erin, for coming to the spiritual spotlight series. It's truly been amazing to speak with you today.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much thank you for having me.

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