Spiritual Spotlight Series

Meditation, Hypnosis, and Modern Mindsets: Insights from Victoria Lovett

Rachel Garrett, RN, CCH / Victoria Lovett Episode 214

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Unlock the secrets of profound personal transformation with our special guest, Victoria Lovett, a seasoned Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) therapist. 

Discover how RTT taps into the subconscious mind through hypnosis, offering a unique and powerful alternative to traditional therapy. Victoria busts common myths about hypnotherapy and shares compelling stories, including a client's remarkable journey to overcome a debilitating fear of heights, revealing how childhood experiences shape our subconscious beliefs and behaviors.

Explore the fascinating world of financial mindsets as Victoria delves into the impact of early life experiences on our attitudes towards money. From feelings of inadequacy to addiction, learn how seemingly trivial events can lead to significant subconscious beliefs. 

Victoria emphasizes the need for positive self-talk and the importance of reframing negative beliefs. We also tackle modern challenges such as social media and screen addiction, discussing strategies for fostering a healthier relationship with technology.

Experience the powerful intersection of spirituality and RTT in our discussion on virtual therapy sessions. Victoria explains how integrating spiritual practices into RTT can deepen the transformative process, regardless of one's religious background. 

We highlight the convenience and effectiveness of remote therapy, sharing a touching story of a man who overcame deep-seated shame related to his sexuality through virtual sessions. 

Discover practical tips for incorporating brief, guided meditations into your daily routine, and understand how meditation and hypnosis can significantly enhance mental well-being.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome to our Spiritual Spotlight Series. Today I am joined by Victoria Lovett. She is an RTT therapist. Victoria, thank you so much for coming to the Spiritual Spotlight Series. I'm so happy you're here. Thank you for having me. So we're going to talk about RTT a lot in this session. So it's rapid transformational therapy. So RTT has an 80% success rate, a remarkable figure from the world of therapy. What do you believe is at the core of its success, and how does RTT differ from traditional therapeutic methods in creating such transformative outcomes? That's a very meaty question to start this out with, I know, but I'm glad because I want to.

Speaker 2:

You know I it's. It needs to be explained because it's so complicated.

Speaker 2:

So, the main difference that RTT has that no other therapy has is that it is like 95% of the session is done while you're in your subconscious mind, and the way you're in your subconscious mind is you do like a little 10 minute induction into like a hypnosis, or other words, like a deep meditative state, and so I will walk you through and get you into that deep meditative state and then your brain can access your subconscious mind and that is where 95% of our mind are. So 95% of our mind is our subconscious mind and it's it's. You can't access it while you're in the state we're in right now, like in this awake state. You cannot access your subconscious mind in this awake state. So it's like that when you're in the hypnosis, it's like you're in that sleep where you know when you're like going to sleep and your leg will just jerk yeah, yes, it's, that is the sleep you're in. Like you can still hear things in the background, but it's kind of like that twilight sleep, right, so I'm not going to be able to tell you. Okay, write me a check for a million dollars. Like, hypnosis is not something that someone can make you do what you don't want to do. Like, of course, like if you're coming to me, you want to change something. There's something you want to change, so I'm going to help you access something in your past that has caused you to have this bad habit to feel these thoughts, to have these emotions, because all our feelings, all our thoughts, our emotions and, importantly, our habits are in our subconscious mind. So we want to get into that subconscious mind and then I will ask I'm like kind of asking questions of why do you believe you're, let's say, why are you afraid of flying Right? And so you know, tell me the, tell me the reason.

Speaker 2:

We're going to go back to a scene and tell me the first time you remembered being afraid of heights and I did this recently and the the girl was like. She remembered her dad, um, picking her up when she was like three or four and holding her over like a bridge, like over like a lake. They were on a bridge and he was like holding her over the over the water. Oh my gosh. She like came up with that and she was like oh my god, I never.

Speaker 2:

I I only am just remembering this like Like when we came out, when we started talking after her session, she was like oh my God, I never even remembered that, and so that was why I mean, of course she's going to be afraid of heights if her dad is like holding her out when they're on this bridge. But so she figured it out and I mean, that was it. You know, it's like like the simplest little thing that happened in your childhood, but we just don't remember it and most of your subconscious is formed by the age of six, so it's like that's where, like, our core beliefs come Right right, you know that makes complete sense.

Speaker 1:

I love that when people hear the term hypnotherapy, it often conjures up images of stage performance or mind control. How do you dispel these myths in your work, and how does hypnotherapy and RTT empower clients rather than controlling them?

Speaker 2:

Well, hypnotherapy the one on the stage is not real therapy, Like you'll like. It's people that like the hypno, the stage hypnotherapist will like pick people out of the audience Like who wants to come up, and so it's the people that are. You know, they're very easily told what to do.

Speaker 1:

Like they want to be up on stage and they want to act a fool.

Speaker 2:

So that's not real hypnosis. I mean that's just like stage hypnosis. So and that does not get into their subconscious mind, it's not at all the same thing. And any every hypnotherapist would be a billionaire if we could make people do whatever we wanted, because we'd all be like write us a check for $10 million. I want you to buy me a house, I want you to do this. We'd all be like write us a check for $10 million, I want you to buy me a house.

Speaker 1:

I want you to do this.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, it's absolutely impossible to be told to do something that you don't want to do. And like, at any time you could literally get up and walk out, like it's like you know. Like say you know your dog started barking or your kids started crying. Like it's not like you can't wake up from it, of course. And like if we were doing a zoom call and say you know the wifi got interrupted, then it wouldn't, you would be able to come out of it. Like it's not like you need me to say, okay, you can now come out of it. It's not like some magical power that I have over you, it's not. So yeah, like with that, like you know, that little stopwatch look at the wall.

Speaker 2:

It's not like that's more like like tv is kind of like messed it up a little bit and like, but that's what I thought when I first, you know, started thinking about it and hearing about it, I was like, oh god, like what am I gonna have to do? Like you know, mean, I really did think that. I mean I thought that it was the same, as we all thought, that it was like I'm going to be clucking like a chicken.

Speaker 2:

you know who knows what I'm going to do, but yeah, it's life-changing. I mean, rtt is just absolutely life-changing. It's like the coolest thing ever. It really is Like it can just completely transform your life.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So you kind of brought this up a little bit ago. But RTT, it dives deep into the subconscious, sometimes unearthing long buried beliefs formed in childhood. What is it like for clients to confront these hidden issues, and how do you guide them through the discomfort that can come with such profound revelations?

Speaker 2:

Well, what we do is I've had a lot of experience with trauma. I've worked with people in rehab, so you know they're like it's very intense and there can be some really intense scenes that come up and what I say is just imagine that you're looking at it on a screen, like you're looking at on a TV screen or your computer screen. You're not reliving it, you're just watching it and you're getting what you need to get from it to realize why you're having issues and why you act the way you do. Why you do drugs, why you drink alcohol is because you don't want to feel and you're like filling that hole, feeling like you know you're not enough or, um, you know I'm different and you know nobody. You know I'm different and you know nobody. You know nobody wants to be with me.

Speaker 2:

Nobody wants me you know, just like so replacing those feelings that they get when something triggers them. But they don't understand why they're being triggered to drink or to do drugs. But then once they figure it out, like oh, that's why, then we can stop it and reframe it and they can see, look at it in a different way. So we're like reframing what happened in their subconscious mind. So they're not actually experiencing it, but they will. I mean, I'll be like I'm right here with you, but they will cry. You know what I mean? They'll cry when they're cause they're still watching something very sad but I'm, you know.

Speaker 2:

I just reassure them. Look, I'm here with you, you're safe, everything's going to be okay and this is not happening to you again. You're just watching it and you're understanding why you have this bad habit or why you feel this way about yourself, or why you feel that you're not worthy, or whatever. The issue is Right. So, yeah, but that's a good, a very good question, though, cause a lot of people are scared, cause they're like, oh, I don't want to go, I don't want to see why, right.

Speaker 1:

You know, and they also feel uncomfortable having a witness to those traumatic moments, cause they're in a very vulnerable spot, which sounds like you're offering a very safe space, nonjudgmental, like let's. Let's help you with this and let's get you through the session.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they, I mean they'll come out of it and like they'll just be like, oh my God, I feel like the biggest weight has been lifted off of me, like a lot I mean. They're just like oh my God, I mean cause they're kind of like processing those feelings while they're in their subconscious mind, so they're not having to process it as much in their conscious mind. So if they feel like, oh my God, I now I understand why I do this. It just feels like I've done it, cause when we were in school we practiced on each other. But it's just such a freeing feeling, like it's like you just feel like so light after your session.

Speaker 1:

It's really cool and you kind of just brought this up also. So in your work you help clients not only identify limiting beliefs but also reframe them. Can you maybe share an example of a particularly transformative reframe that changed the course of someone's life? Maybe one of your clients you can share?

Speaker 2:

Yes, I have one client that had money issues and she just like, as she said, whenever I make money it's always like just goes, you know, just just goes, like to bills, like I can never catch up, I can never catch up. So we went back to her childhood and there was one specific memory that she had that she took money out of her mom's wallet because she wanted to be like her friends and anyway. So she took her money because she wanted to have money to shop with her friends when she was younger. Well, her mom found out and when she came home, her mom was just yelling at her and, oh my gosh, how could you do this to me? And so she felt ashamed about money, and she would.

Speaker 2:

She had another memory where she was shopping with her friends and her friends, her parents, the friend's parents had more money than her parents did, so it made her feel like you know, I'm not good enough, I don't have enough, I don't, it's not available to me. Like you know, money's not available to me, and her mom would always talk about how they don't have enough. I don't, it's not available to me. Like you know, money's not available to me, and her mom would always talk about how they don't have enough money. They can't afford that, they can't afford that. So that like is in her subconscious mind, like I can't afford that, we don't have enough, you know, I'm not worthy, because her mom wouldn't give her money to.

Speaker 2:

So all that was centered around her ideas with money. And then she was like, oh my gosh, so I would just reframe it as okay. Now I'll say now you know, do you know? Now why, do you see, why you have this feeling about money? And so then we'll just say, okay, well, that was your mom.

Speaker 2:

You're not dependent on your mother anymore for money, you can make your own money and you don't need anybody to give you money, you can make your own money. So that was like the reframe you no longer need to ask someone for money, you make your own money now. So then she just had like that, oh my God, wow, like that aha moment that, yeah, I don't need to feel ashamed, like I'm not asking anybody for money, I don't need to feel ashamed about money. And then she was able to ask her clients, because she felt bad asking her clients for money. So then she felt better about herself and so she was then able to ask her clients for money, for more money because she was giving away a bunch of free sessions and stuff.

Speaker 2:

So I mean it's great in the beginning, but you know, I mean it's like after a while. So, yeah, really it totally changed everything for her with money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's interesting how what we may view as benign events, how it has such a lasting impact in our future, and how we treat things and how we act towards situations. It's interesting.

Speaker 2:

It's fascinating, right? Yeah, it's like. It's like could be the tiniest little thing, or even like a conversation that you heard, or you just heard part of a conversation, and that is like in your subconscious mind and you're like, oh my God, I'm not enough.

Speaker 1:

Like I don't, I don't belong. I don't belong, I'm not worthy. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and that's like the number one thing. Everybody is like I'm not worthy, I'm not enough, especially with addicts, that they're like any kind of addict, a shopping addict, you know drugs, alcohol, sex food, yeah, all of it. It's like it's filling that hole. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And I, yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no, no, Don't be sorry. And I think that people don't realize that you could be addicted to so many things. You could be addicted to exercise. You could be addicted to water. You could be addicted like it's like where are feeling of unworthiness onto? I'm going to have repetitive, right Obsessive actions towards something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like social media is huge right now, like a lot of kids especially, and adults, are addicted to social media. Yeah, you're addicted to video games, like it's like screen addiction is a huge thing, and that is. It's like you don't want to feel, so you just can get on your phone. It's like the easiest thing ever. I don't want to feel my feelings, I don't want to feel, so I'm just going to get on here and distract myself.

Speaker 1:

I will say that you know it's interesting and I wonder if you've? I don't know if you work with younger clientele, but I've noticed that you know, like my son, he's 15 and he talks a lot about like brain rot and how there is like brain rot on social media and I'm like what is that? He's like it's just the dumbest thing that people will spend hours and hours just rotting their brain away, it's all. And now I've seen it Like adults are like well, I'm going to rot in the bed all day. It's like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but don't. It's like that's the worst thing, Like don't say that, Cause your subconscious mind believes everything you say and it's like, oh, okay, you're gonna rot in the bed all day.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'll make you sick then and you really will be rotten in the. I'll show you rot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Yeah, you've got to be like so careful. That's another thing about your subconscious mind.

Speaker 1:

It believes everything you said yes, so if you joke around like oh, my god, I'm so fat.

Speaker 2:

And then your, your mind's like okay, you're you're so fat. Okay, then I guess we're going to eat then, right? You know, I mean it's like it is crazy. You've got to be so careful about what you say to yourself, because your mind believes every single thing you say, whether it's true or whether it's a lie. So true. So you've got to be so careful with self-talk and yes, everything, because it is I mean a lot of us do it.

Speaker 1:

I mean negative we do, we do and it's I'm sorry, and this is a little bit off topic I've recently been watching this like masterclass and he's teaching about like how to live a more, I guess, positive life in a nutshell. And the lesson today and I thought it was fascinating. He was like you cannot live a peaceful life If you're in conflict, if you're in negativity, if you're complaining. It's like that. He's like conflict, complaining creates disruption. Gratitude creates peace and he's like you have to be in a gratitude, in that loving nature, instead of this conflict. I was like, oh my gosh, and he's like if somebody's complaining, then they're not in peace. Right.

Speaker 1:

It's so true, like that negativity, it's like the more you complain, the more bad things are going to come to you, yes, and it gets buried deep down into us and I feel like it almost lights up a beacon of oh, bring me more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it does. It's like whatever you you think you attract, right, so if you think negative thoughts, you're attracting more negative things, absolutely. I mean it's like it's like that, the secret, like that book, the secret, that it's like you know what, what you attract. You attract what you are. They say you attract what you are. So if you're like an unhappy person, guess what Probably going to attract you are. You're going to attract another unhappy person you're probably going to attract you, are you're?

Speaker 1:

going to attract another unhappy person, relationship, job, everything everything. So important, so important. So the idea of transformation is central to RTT in your practice. How do you measure or define transformation in your clients, especially in a field where progress can sometimes feel intangible?

Speaker 2:

Well, what we do, that is huge for progress. I mean usually right after the session, since we want what are? What are you here for? What do you want to feel? How do you want to look? How do you want people to respond to you? How do you want to act? What kind of clothes do you want to wear? You know, I mean just like everything. Just what do you want from this? And so I write down everything that they want and then I make them an audio, like a customized audio, and I put every single thing that they want in this audio and it's like positive affirmations, but it's using their words, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because, if you're using it in your own words, you believe it more. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I just make them list, I make them like a 10 minute audio and I'll just send them you know, email them the audio. It's so they can just listen to it, you know, on their phone or in the car, and so it's just like positive affirmations Like you're amazing, you're so thin, you're healthy, you love working out, you love eating healthy food, I mean just like whatever they've told me that they want, I just repeat it and put it in their brain and they listen to it and after I, like 2130 is really probably the best, but 21 days is how long it takes for your mind to create new neural pathways. So 21 is like you know, the least, but 30 is even better. That's why a lot of rehabs are like 30 days. Wow, because it takes 30 days to change those neural, to build, to change the neural pathways.

Speaker 2:

Right, right, Right, right. So to you know, get rid of the old one and create a new one, yeah, so that's why that's like a 30 day, or like any kind of thing or camp or whatever that you go to. Like it's like a like 30 days. It seems like 30 days is like the magic number, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like but yeah, so they just listen to it for 10 minutes every day, either first thing in the morning or when they go to sleep, and I'm put them in a quick little hip hypnosis, sure, so they're listening to it in their subconscious mind. So that's why. So I talk them through that, but I tell them, you know, obviously don't listen to the first part of it while you're driving, of course, but, um, you know, but just listen to the affirmation yes, I love that it's, it's so cool. So it's like 10, 15 minutes and listen to that for 21 to 30 days, and then it's like automatic, it's like a habit, it's already like in your brain, like driving or something like you know, when you're in your subconscious mind. You get home and you're like how do I get here Because?

Speaker 2:

we've done it so many times that it's been. A neural pathway has formed in our brain that we can do it while we're not even paying attention. We can just kind of we can be thinking about a million other things.

Speaker 1:

Right, it's so, so true. So spirituality and therapy often intersect in your work. How would you incorporate spiritual practices or beliefs into RTT when working with clients who may have a deep connection to their spiritual path?

Speaker 2:

Well, that's another thing, is the spiritual soul is also a part of your subconscious mind. Yes, so that's like it's very easy to connect that, yeah. And we're not using, like you know, it's not like religion specific right so it's like it can be for anybody anybody, it doesn't matter, Anybody right.

Speaker 2:

It's just like you know, it's just like your essence, it's just your essence of who you, it's just like your essence, it's just your essence of who you are, like who, your soul. So it just connects on that level because that spiritual soul is in your subconscious mind, right? So it's perfect for that, like for you know, change and just having deep change, I mean like it's amazing.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I feel, like anyone that's on a spiritual awakening path or on a spiritual path, they're looking for transformation. They're looking for that I need an RTC session or I need this Like they're looking for that piece that they might feel is the same, like within themselves.

Speaker 2:

So I and there's a lot. Yeah, I mean it, it can just get. You're just like why do I feel this way? And people really truly do not know, like why they feel this way. And then they get into their subconscious and they're like, oh my gosh, cause I heard my mom say something when I was a child, or she said this, and I thought she liked my big sister, my sister, better than me, right? And so then they're always thinking their whole life I'm not enough, I'm not enough, I'm not enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so it's like yeah right and it's like you know, then they all have them in in subs, in like, in situations like that, I'll say, okay, let's have a conversation with your mom, like you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, and then you're going to ask your mom questions and then you're going to speak back as your mom and so they can have a conversation with their mom, whether they're still alive, right, you know, if they're still, even if they're still alive, or if they passed on, they can still, because it'll just come through.

Speaker 2:

It's like super cool, like it'll make you understand. Oh, that's why my mom said that it's not like it's not you, your mom was just, you know, you just missed a little bit. The conversation continued, but you just heard the first part of the conversation and, of course, your mother would not meaningly, you know well, no, good mother would mean to make you feel less than or make you feel like you're not equal, and so yeah, it's just it could be the tiniest little thing, or it could be a huge thing that you've just blocked.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely yeah. Given the rise of digital therapy platforms, how does RTT translate when done over Zoom, facetime or other virtual mediums? Do you find that the effectiveness of the therapy changes when it's conducted remotely?

Speaker 2:

I really don't. And I even have a client here in Houston and we did a session and he was he lives like I mean, houston's a huge city, right, so he lived like on the out, kind of like on the outskirts, and I lived more closer into everything. And so he said let's just do a zoom then. And so I'm like okay, great. And you know, he just he was gay and so we had some issues with, like the church leader when he was a little, a little boy, saying you know, it's a sin, you know you're going to go to hell, like I mean, like a lot of of gay people have heard back then, and so he just felt so much shame over that. And I'm like, you know, and he was, like you, you know, kind of just crying in a session and he came, he came out of his session, he was like, oh my god, I didn't even realize I was crying, but it's like he said I didn't really think it was going to work that well over zoom, but it's, it's super powerful and I feel like it's, you feel, maybe safer too when you're at home because you're in your own personal environment, right and you're yeah, I mean you're, you're controlled, you don't, and you also don't have to get in your car and drive there and yeah, be stressed out time yeah

Speaker 2:

right. I mean, it's like it's just, you just are at home, you don't have to worry about any extra time for traveling and traffic and miss time away from your loved ones. You, you can do it, you know, while you're, while your kids are at school, when you're not working. So yeah, it seems to I've never had a client that said oh my God, I think it would be better next time if we did it in person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I will say that I feel the exact same way when I'm doing my healing worker. I have my clients. I'm I'm like I don't do any in person anymore. I'm like I don't do any in-person anymore. I'm like I do it all over Zoom. It's the same Energy follows intention. So we're going to have the same outcome. I don't need to see.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I mean, I feel like people like it better. I mean that's one of the benefits from all this craziness that was going on, going on.

Speaker 1:

you know it's still going on.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, I know. Oh, it's awful, awful, awful, but we all, like kind of tried to figure out a way to, you know, live again, work around it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So before I ask you the last question, if anyone is interested in learning more about you, what is the best place for them to go to?

Speaker 2:

They can go to my Instagram, which is Victoria Lovett R-T-T, and they can, or they can, go to my website, which is Victoria dash Lovett L-O-V-E-T-T, r-t-t. So Victoria Lovett R-T-Tcom.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, it's. It's really, honestly, is very it's just life changing.

Speaker 1:

I love it yeah as someone who facilitates profound healing and transformation. What piece of advice would you offer to our audience, many of whom are at different stages of their own spiritual and healing journeys?

Speaker 2:

I would say don't be on, don't be so hard on yourself. And I think that, like, meditating is so important, like even if it's just for like five minutes a day, like even if you're just sitting and there's guided meditations you can listen to, like you can just get on. You know, just Google five minute relaxation meditation or five minutes Cause it's so like people think that in order to meditate, they have to have their mind completely blank, and if your mind is completely blank, then you're dead, your brain dead. I mean, you go, so you're going to have those thoughts, you know.

Speaker 2:

So it's like don't think, oh my God, I can't you go. So you're going to have those thoughts, you know. So it's like don't think, oh my God, I can't do this, just because you're thinking about things, right, you just try to just, you know, concentrate on your breathing or concentrate on what you're listening to. But I mean, just five minutes a day is the? Even two minutes a day is like such a huge, like life-changing. That's a great way to change your neural pathways in your brain.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely Like yeah it's, it's amazing.

Speaker 2:

So I would say definitely everyone. Just, you know, just find a little five minute meditation right and that will really change your brain and calm it down. Yeah, I love that. It's really good.

Speaker 1:

I love that. Well, victoria, I want to say thank you so much for coming to spiritual spotlight series is truly has been amazing to connect with you today, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2:

That was so much fun. I love being able to tell people about it and it's not going to kind of have them not be so scared of hypnosis, because it's not a bad thing. You can get out of it. I promise yourself it's. We're not controlling you.

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