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Embracing Divine Human Design: Insights from Spiritual Life Coach Larry Armstead II

Rachel Garrett, RN, CCH / Larry Armstead II Episode 152

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 Welcome to the Spiritual Spotlight Series, where we explore the intersection of spirituality and personal growth. In today's episode, Rachel Garrett is joined by the insightful and introspective Larry Armstead II, founder of Divine Human Design.

Together, they delve into the fascinating world of human design, a unique system that blends spiritual and physical elements to help individuals understand their energy configurations and navigate life's complexities.

As Rachel and Larry discuss human design, they not only explore the technical aspects of this system but also dive into its real-world applications. Larry generously offers a human design reading for Rachel, shedding light on her open solar plexus and hypersensitivity to emotions. Through this personal exploration, they touch on the significance of emotional awareness, embracing one's true self, and finding balance in spiritual growth.

Larry's own spiritual journey, marked by profound experiences and self-discovery, adds a layer of authenticity to the conversation. From facing inner conflicts to finding inner peace, he shares valuable insights gained from his personal transformation.

Emotional work can be a treacherous terrain, yet it's within our darkest shadows that we often find the most profound truths about ourselves. I open up about my own battles with internalized homophobia and the journey to self-acceptance, while Larry sheds light on the comfort some find within chaos. Together, we stress the role therapists or coaches play in navigating this delicate work, and the ongoing evolution of self-awareness that stretches far beyond the therapy room. By confronting our shadow selves, we initiate a transformative process of emotional regulation and growth, essential to harnessing the power of our own human design.

Join us as we unravel the intricacies of human design, delve into the complexities of spirituality, and embrace the wisdom of finding balance in our spiritual quests. This episode promises to be a thought-provoking and enriching exploration of the spiritual landscape.

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Speaker 1:

Hello everyone, welcome to our spiritual spotlight series. Today I am joined by Larry Armstead II. He is an ecology-certified life coach, divine human design founder, certified mindfulness teacher, quantum rakey certified emotional freedom technique practitioner, tedx speaker which is amazing an author. Larry, thank you so much for coming on the spiritual spotlight series. I am so happy you're here today.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

So for the first question how did you first discover your passion for human design and life, spiritual, life coaching? Those are two big, heavy things.

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, they kind of feed each other actually. So if we look at the chronology of that, spiritual life coaching comes first and then human design comes. I've always been. I was born on this planet as a little spiritual guy. My birthday is in three weeks, so 41 years ago. I was born as just a little spiritual guy, right, but I didn't know what to do with it.

Speaker 2:

Growing up, and about 14, 15 years old I had an experience where I first saw the death of my oldest brother in graphic detail of what was going to happen, and I saw it about a year before it happened and it kind of turned everything on and I was never like I didn't go looking for it. I wasn't, like you know, in active meditation or anything like looking for it. It happened to me, right, and once that light was on I couldn't turn it off. So I got extremely curious about, you know, after he passed I was about 16 years old. I got curious and you know this is 1999. So I went to a library and just checked out every book on spirituality, witches, ghosts, mediumship, anything. That entire section I pretty much owned.

Speaker 1:

Same same yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it was absolutely. And it was the time where the internet was an infant right, because it's 1999. So it was the time you could also, you know, check out 15 library books at a time. And I grew up in a very spiritual Christian household and so I was kind of in the closet in two kinds of ways at that time, and because I was like, how am I parents are going to feel about me having all this stuff in their house, right? I started reading tarot and then, you know, I had friends all over the country. I started doing readings for them and then I had one friend say, have you ever thought about doing this online? And I was like I'm not gonna pay me for this. And turns out they do. Wow.

Speaker 2:

And then human design actually happened to me right before I had a major breakup a few years ago. It had been on my radar and I was curious, but I wasn't like invested. I was like nope, I already have tarot, I have Oracle, I have everything else that you mentioned at the top of the podcast. I don't need another modality, surely not. And one night, you know, in the deep, sunken place of the breakup that you know happens to any of us that I'm going through that. I pulled open the human design app that I had on my phone and I saw myself and I was like, oh my God, this explained so much and I went just deep, straight down the rabbit hole. And I have been down that rabbit hole ever since. The biggest thing for me with human design is like I've been trying to disprove that it works, and every time I try to disprove it it doubles itself down. I'm like, no, this is actually a real thing. So that's how I got here.

Speaker 1:

Wow, I want to say one thing that you mentioned. You suffered some traumatic losses, philosophy brother, a traumatic breakup. Would you say that these losses are rocket fuel for your ascension process?

Speaker 2:

In a way that I've never thought about it the way, but in a way, yes, absolutely they're kind of the impact point or the catalyst for things happening, in a way that I had not even considered before.

Speaker 1:

So, yes, yeah, the only reason I bring it up is that my brother committed suicide many years ago and it's okay. Same to your brother too for his loss. And it's interesting when you look back at you know, because we're both spiritual people, you've been on this path a long time, you know, like these pivotal moments where we've had these significant losses or traumas.

Speaker 1:

You know that it's now like, oh, that's, this happened as part of my ascension process. Yes, it's a terrible loss, I'm very sorry, but it's like now I can look back on it and be like, okay, it's okay. You know what?

Speaker 2:

I mean yeah, that makes sense, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So go ahead, no no, no, no, go for it. No, go for it. I'm extra back and call, go for it.

Speaker 1:

Larry and our now best friends. Okay, guys, absolutely so, and I will say this too, because I've noticed some challenges in learning human design. So what challenges did you face in translating the complex language of human design into everyday terms?

Speaker 2:

Oh gosh, it is one of the Okay, so again it's like speaking Greek.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And that's I. So I told my best friend actually introduced me to human design. I was like it's like someone speaking in Chinese. Yes, it was like I see all these shapes and characters. Yes, what does this mean? The triangles and the squares and the diamonds, and this is colored in. But this is open and you have these lines going here, that what does this mean? And it took for me to kind of like really immerse myself in it. It was kind of like when I learned Spanish, basically in high school. It was just like totally immersion, right Just to figure out what's going on. And you realize that human design is made up of several different spiritual modalities. And once you see the actual spiritual modalities, like the Jewish Kabbalah in the each team, and you know astrology Eastern and Western astrology you see all of these components and I'm like, oh, I can break these apart and see where they actually came from, and then I can see how they've been synthesized together to make something new. And that was, that was the breakthrough moment for me.

Speaker 1:

I love that. To be honest, I've never considered it like several different modalities blended into one. That's interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the, the, the Kabbalah tree of life's there, like all of these modalities are there and you just have to kind of get to where you gravitate to in human design because, like you said, it's one of the most confusing things because I mean you could 75 websites. You type in human design in Google right now you get 75 different websites that are going to explain it in 75 different ways.

Speaker 2:

But the best way I always tell people is, if you come across human design, get it is, get a reading from a design reader like myself, so we can actually break it down for you, because you you will come to find when you read on human design generally online, it's, it's very generalized, right, but your design is actually about you specifically. So it's like cool that all this other stuff means something, but what does this mean about me specifically? How does this apply to me? Right, that's when you'll start making the connection for the body.

Speaker 1:

I love that and I think for also it sounds like it's almost a deeper version of of astrology, like a lot of people really go into astrology and whatnot, I guess can you maybe explain how it's a different? I know you're also an astrology coach, so maybe I'm not asking the right question. So it's almost like cause I have a friend who was obsessed with astrology and I'm always like don't tell me what house my blah blah blah is in. I don't care Like it's just it's so stressful to me about the whole Pluto going into Aquarius and where is it?

Speaker 1:

I'm like I don't want to die, like that's how I feel. Like it just it comes across like that. Like it just your life is going to be dramatic.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so for me I'm not an astrology guy. I guess the one thing that I haven't I'm not delved into that, but my best friend she is now in astrology. I'm more the numerology type person.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, I like numerology yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, but human design has a huge astrological component. Wow, and it's about. So the planets go through 64 different expressions of each planet. Right, they call these planets gates and human design. And there are certain planets that you have the certain configurations based on your design charts, that you have consistent access to this type of energy, and each planet, kind of like an astrology, speaks on a different thing, like mercury, for example, is your message to communicate to the masses, or right, and everyone has, everyone has a mercury placement, so you'll get to see what those placements are and how they line up in your chart and all those things. So I mean, with human design it's you can break it apart. By the same time, the human design it blends all the systems together into this brand new synthesis and you have to kind of suspend what you know but also apply what you know. It's kind of a trade off in your head a little bit.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So in your book, Where's my Pizza? You talk about the power of expectation. How has this concept played a role in your personal and professional life?

Speaker 2:

So it's actually very funny because this is one part where I can actually blend human design here, so you guys can see this. So in human design, I have the channel 4130 and a channel. This channel, basically, is the channel of expectations. So I would I'm going to extend based on my design, to look at everything in my life based on certain expectations. Right, and this is before I knew human design, design was a thing. So the fact that I wrote a book on expectations and that's one of the major energy channels in my chart is amazing, right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, even before you. Oh my goodness, how profound is that.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Your design is always working in the background, whether you know it or not, right? Yes, and with Where's my Pizza? When I wrote that, it was during a meditation I heard very clearly in life, we don't get what we want, we get what we expect. And I'm like, I'm sorry, what?

Speaker 1:

Hell yeah, excuse me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right. And from there it was just kind of like okay, so what do I do with that? In spirit, it was like, well, what are the things you actually expect to happen? Yeah, and I started looking at everything and I'm like, oh okay, well, I expect that you know, I'm going to have a one place to lay my head and all those things. So I'm actually looking for those things. And it's everything in your life that you actually look for, even the things you look for subconsciously, that you're not aware of. So the big thing is like okay, well, I'm stuck in a job that I hate. How am I expecting that? Well, you're expecting to go to a job that you hate every day. So you're going to fulfill the expectation that you placed upon that job every single day until you expect something different.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that is so interesting. It doesn't, and it's almost like it doesn't matter if it's negative or positive. It's neutral, like no matter what your expectation is and what's in the subconscious and what you know and what you don't know. That's fascinating. It's so fascinating. You wrote a book about something that's actively in your human design chart. Like that's so cool.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

It's so cool. So Rachel is speechless. So can you maybe describe and I'm sure you have hundreds of these a moment where you witnessed in a client's life through your coaching, that they had like a very transformational experience or a profound moment?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I had a coaching client last week, actually One of my favorite coaching clients. I won't, of course, not going to drop any name or information, but this coaching client came to me and was like Larry, I realize that I love living in a house that is dusty and clothes aren't folded and all these things, and I'm like say more. And she was like that's actually the subconscious expectation that I have, that I look, I wouldn't do it if I didn't love it. I'm getting a benefit from being here because I get to, I get to talk about my husband that he's not doing enough, I get to complain about this. This isn't happening. I get to complain all these things and I, larry, I actually enjoy that. He getting people to that place where they can like listen to what's going on, they can observe what's going on and they can say, oh, my God, I actually do get some enjoyment out of this, because what you'll notice is that I'm not on a trauma that's unresolved in your body, Wow, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So for me like if I use my own self as an example kind of veering away from the client I am a almost 41 year old gay man living in the Midwest and one of the biggest things for me was, a couple of summers ago, realizing that I enjoy being a homophobic gay man. I would not go to a pride festival because I wasn't like those people I'm not gonna wear a rainbow like those people. I'm better than those people. And I was like, oh shh I, this is interesting. And so it broke my heart initially, Of course, Like into a thousand pieces, Cause I'm like this is my community, but I'm completely judging this community.

Speaker 2:

But that unlocked another thing, because now I enjoy not only being homophobic but I enjoy judging it. I'm like, okay, so how am I judging other people? How do I enjoy that? And it was like, oh, I'm better than everyone. I'm better than my siblings because I didn't do the things that they said. I'm better than my brother who passed because I didn't do so. As you build up all of these things in your head, even on a subconscious level, and these things are like little children at the playground they need to come out and they need to play on all the rides. So I was like you know what? We're gonna let these judgmental, homophobic parts play, because it's the only way we're gonna transmute the energy.

Speaker 2:

I let them come out and play. I let myself be as judgmental as I could in my journal. Everywhere I would let the thoughts that I would typically resist just pop to the forefront of my head. And what I found is this the moment that I let those things out and play, they calmed down because they tucked their energy out. And now I went to my first pride festival, wore the rainbow stuff and had a fantastic time zero judgment. But that couldn't have happened without me bringing that online and just letting that play out.

Speaker 1:

I have to say I commend you in actually being so vulnerable and open with you know that's something that some people don't want to admit to having you know within themselves, like the shadow side and the judgment side, and, as you're saying it, it's resonating with me. I'm like I bet you I've got a judgy bitch inside of me, like you know what I mean I know, I do, and as you're saying I'm like, oh, they need to, this needs to come out to play.

Speaker 1:

but I'm not going to know unless I have a human design reading Like you know what I mean. Like I'm probably not going to know what's tucked in and hidden in, and you know, that's fascinating that you allow that to come up. You identified it and then you're like all right, bitches, let's go. Like you know what I mean, and then you tuckered that energy out and now it's shifted an aspect of your life for the more positive. That's such a beautiful thing. Thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 2:

You're very welcome. It's kind of what I find kind of like if we don't do the emotional work, if we don't let those pieces like number one, if you're going to do this kind of work, don't do it by yourself. I mean, I had some support to you know, do it with right, like I work with the coach. I did all the things I. You know people are like oh, you're a coach, you work with the coach. Absolutely Every coach, every coach and every therapist.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, as a healer, I have a healer. As a healer, I have a coach Apps 100%, like you always need to be evolving.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. There's always somebody that knows a little bit more than you or has another resource that you don't have in your toolbox.

Speaker 1:

Right, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And so for me, when you do this kind of work, it is literally you have to have someone to hold that space for you, because you don't want, you don't want to take that you know that judgmental I. You said you had the judgmental bit. You said I called him, I was like you're a royal dick. That's what I referred to myself as right. And you know I don't want to. I don't want to turn that outward and like, look at my family and be in a situation with them and be like I'm so much better than you. Yeah, I hate you.

Speaker 1:

I didn't want to do that right, Because I don't want to hurt someone.

Speaker 2:

Right, but that energy needed somewhere to go because it's a trauma response that never got resolution Right, so it's kind of bad. You have to have the space for somewhere to go, someone to hold that container open for you that you can pour that into. And then you have to be willing to do the work because, let's face it, you're going to meet with your coach once a week or your therapist once a week for an hour. There's not a whole hell of a lot that we as coaches or your therapist can do in an hour, but you're with yourself 24 hours a day, so you got to be willing to do the work as well.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely. Can you maybe explain how your approach to human design differs from traditional methods?

Speaker 2:

Yes, so I term what I do divine human design, and that is because, yeah, thank you, and it's because I can't unsee all of the years of spiritual stuff that I've seen occur in my life. I can't discount it as unreal, I can't discount it as an illusion, and you will find any traditionally human design people please cover your ears right now, because I'm going to say something very heretical but you will find that in traditional human design, the founder of human design would say you know, the spiritual aspect is an illusion. And I'm like, no, it's not, it absolutely isn't. And so when I spoke at the human design conference in September of 2023, I spoke on this very topic how the spirituality is not an illusion and how I actually traced back through concepts like the law of one and from the tarot and from, of course, the miracles. And how. The same voice, because if you, if you've read, of course, the miracles, it speaks of the voice that spoke, right. Yeah, same thing in the law of one, it speaks of the voice, right, human design also has the same voice, and that voice, across all three systems, carries the same signature and the same vibration. It says the exact same things.

Speaker 2:

And I was like it's not an illusion, the spirituality is not an illusion. So I take all the tools that have my toolbox and I blend them into what I call divine human design. And I will say you know, a lot of people after that conference came to me and said, oh my God, thank you so much for not letting the spiritual aspect of this go. Yes, and I can't let it go. So I can only blend what I see out into the bigger part of human design, because human design itself is a synthesis and it's a mutative science is what they call it right. So bringing the spiritual in is mutating human design in the way that it's intended to go, because the founder is no longer with us, so he was only able to carry the torch so far.

Speaker 2:

Someone else has to carry the torch, so someone else has to carry the torch and then someone else has to carry. So I don't have all the answers in divine human design. Someone else is going to take divine human design and they're going to mutate and evolve. That yes. I'm so excited to see where all these offshoots are going, because they all go together.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love how divine human design that's really amazing, like I really like that and I like that you're still incorporating the spiritual aspect of it. I couldn't imagine somebody saying it's an illusion, like that just seems so disconnected from us as a divine being having a human experience.

Speaker 2:

What you'll see in human design, though, is there's this polarity that happens in the human experience, right when people say, oh, we're all spiritual, and then you have people say, no, it's all body, and the answer is it's neither. It's somewhere in the center of both Right and human design is the polar swing from the world spiritual beings. They say, no, it's all the body, no, it's a combination of both. That makes sense. Do I have the exact dead center of this? I do not. Did he have the exact dead center of this? No, but what he brought in was what his nervous system was able to contain for him, and his nervous system was able to bring through that. We're neglecting the body mechanics of it. All Right, so that's what human design is for, but we can't we also can't neglect the spiritual end of it as well. So we got to, we got to blend.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So I know that part of the thing you said you're going to do a mini demonstration of a human design reading.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me pull your chart. Goodness guys In the app.

Speaker 1:

So I will say that while we were interviewing back and forth, I really felt comforted when I got an email from Larry saying that we're going to get along because we had. I think we're. What are you? You're a competitor.

Speaker 2:

I'm a 6'2".

Speaker 1:

And I think I'm a 6, something I don't know.

Speaker 2:

You are also a 6'2".

Speaker 1:

Guys best friends.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so I love 6'2's and, for people that are listening, you're like what is a 6'2? A 6'2 is what, in human design, we call your profile and this is the character that you play in this lifetime, right? So you are just looking at your chart. You are a 6'2 generator. What does any of that stuff means? This means you're here to respond to life, right? So you've. We talked a little bit before this podcast about you know what does the sacral mean and what does all these things mean and all the good stuff. So I'm going to ask you what do?

Speaker 1:

I think it means.

Speaker 2:

Or what are your big questions, because you have a lot of interesting stuff going on here.

Speaker 1:

So, to be honest and okay, guys, so I am a reading whore. I love getting readings by any type of reader. I would be the first to admit that I and I was like I don't even know what questions to ask for a human, a divine human design, and I and I hate to say that because it makes me sound like so silly and I guess it's more like I don't know- no, it's so.

Speaker 2:

I'll give you a couple of things here, just based on what I'm saying at your chart, just kind of a general overview. He's like I wish it was.

Speaker 2:

So. The human design chart is composed of nine different energy systems, and two of them happen kind of above the neck. So if you're familiar with the, the chakra system, right, human design splits off into nine different centers instead of seven. So you have the familiar, the hand, the asana, you also have the throat, then you have the G center and the ego, which those two have split off from one another. Okay. Then you have the solar plexus, you have the sacral, you have the root, and then you also have the spleen center. All that is Greek, right.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

So the big thing for you is I'm looking at your chart here and you have a completely open solar plexus. The solar plexus is in human design, is responsible for emotions and emotional regulations. So I'm just going to go ahead and say what I'm going to say here, that for you, you're going to tend to be dramatic. You wear your. You wear your heart on your sleeve Very much so I was going to air away from the word dramatic, but you wear, you definitely wear your heart on your sleeve and you can tend toward probably what people would consider overreaction. I hate that word because there's no such thing as an overreaction.

Speaker 1:

I would say I'm hyper sensitive.

Speaker 2:

You are very hyper sensitive and that's because your solar plexus is completely open. So that means when you feel an emotion, you feel the emotion ten times bigger in your body. If you're happy, you're the happiest person that has ever been alive. If someone has pissed you off, it is the hellfires of Satan himself coming into the room.

Speaker 1:

Right, so hard to be good.

Speaker 2:

But that's how you feel all emotion and that's the way you're designed to feel emotion. It is this big, explosive emotion for you, no matter if it's a good emotion or it's a neutral motion or some bad emotion, and you feel it. You're sensitive, you're going to get your feelings hurt very easily. You're going to tend to get that's going to happen for you very easily. And then, once you you'll find that if you repress the expression of that emotion, of that emotion, the frustration that you continue to get under is going to mount and get bigger and you're going to be completely frustrated until you actually break at the seams. And then it's going to be, it's just going to come at you, right?

Speaker 1:

And anybody that's in. Yeah, I'm very much a. We need to get this out right now, or or I'm good, I'm done, like I can't have animosity. I don't like festering energy. I'm like let's just clean this slate here and now, because I don't like this tension.

Speaker 2:

And here's what's the interesting part about your open solar plexus is is, once you have got it out, you're cool, you're cool, you are, you're good. And people coming to you three days later you're like and they're rehashing and you're like, oh, maybe we talked about this.

Speaker 1:

I'm good, we're good, and they're so hung on to it. Right, you're so good, this is so amazing, I'll be, I'll be over and done with something in five minutes. I'm like if we've talked about it, we're good. Moving on, life is good.

Speaker 2:

Now and I'll just oppose that with someone like me who has a defined solar plexus center, right. So this might help you a little bit in your life. So if you, if you run across someone with a defined solar plexus center like myself, we have what we can call the emotional wave. So we are always feeling emotion. So literally, imagine us on on the ocean, right, even on the prettiest day at the ocean, you can still see waves rippling on the water. They're not dramatic waves or anything like that, but they're still moving on the water. The water is not still. That is how we are always feeling. We're always feeling something.

Speaker 1:

That's interesting.

Speaker 2:

Whereas you guys, I call it, you won't find, you won't. You won't find this term in a human design. You'll find it when I release my book on it. But I call you guys. You have what I call emotional impact. I liken it to a comet ripping through the atmosphere and it hits the surface and throws up all this dust and stuff, but it settles and it's done us. The comet hits the water and it's waves and ripples.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and we're throwing overboard and we got all this salt water in our face. We're trying to figure out which way is up. We can't see, we have no clarity, we don't know, and the only thing that we can do is we can ride the wave. That's the only thing that we can do.

Speaker 1:

That is fascinating, like it makes me really have to be more conscious of, maybe, how my emotional reactions are if somebody is constantly riding a wave.

Speaker 2:

Like that sounds intense. I don't know how to not be Like. So people that are emotionally defined, I find feel really misunderstood. And we're about 50% of the population. So there's 50% of you guys walking out there that have no emotional definition. There are 50% of us walking around with emotional definition. I wouldn't know how to survive without emotional definition. My fiance is completely emotionally open, the most sensitive soul you will ever meet. It's his feelings hurt like this.

Speaker 1:

Yes. Right but for me it's like you could text somebody and I'd be like who are you texting?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right, and for him it's very much that and for me it's the emotionally. That are people that are emotionally defined. We have these. We can often be accused of feeling, of seeming like we don't care enough or that we're not in it. No, it's just because we're so used to being on the wave of the water. It's just like we're used to this. Yes, so you get really big emotional expression out of us and you can also see in us. Those people are like oh my God, you're bipolar. Are they bipolar or are they emotionally defined? Because there are seven days in the emotional solar plexus that can change how this wave calibrates, right? So some people can have these really big crashing waves, right, it wouldn't make them seem bipolar, but they're not. They just haven't had a way or someone to tell them this is what your wave is about, this is what you're feeling, this is how you're feeling, this is how you're supposed to process this.

Speaker 1:

That makes so much sense Now, you just said something during this when your book comes out. So are you writing a book on divine human design?

Speaker 2:

I am.

Speaker 1:

What is it coming out?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. So I'm right, it's a book and it's gonna have a tarot deck with it. It's about let's see where am I at in the tarot deck. I've done the major arcana, I've done the cups and I've done the wands.

Speaker 1:

I am so excited Cause, honestly, in this brief time that we've been together, you have made divine human design make so much more sense than and I honestly, like I've been exposed to this for a year. So it's not that it's not new, but the way that you were making it understand to me, I'm like, oh okay, then this makes sense. I do have a question. I don't know if you can tell us in human design, sure, so I really love doing interviews. I love being a podcast host. I love doing interviews.

Speaker 2:

It's in your design. It's in your design.

Speaker 1:

Larry would love to do this. I'm a registered nurse who runs a doctor's office in my full-time gig, but I would love to have this show or some type of show be my gig, cause I'm a healer and I do readings and all that kind of fun stuff too. But is that a possibility in my human design chart?

Speaker 2:

So let me put your chart back up here. So you have a defined throat right. You are here to actually speak. So the throat center in human design is the center for manifestation right and for you, the way that your throat center works. Let me pull up that channel here that you have.

Speaker 1:

I love these channels.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you have the channel 1648. So it's about bringing all your intuition and all that expression of an intuition to the throat so it can actually get out. So you actually want to have that. You want to actually speak and creatively use your talents, to actually bring things into the world. And it has to be with what you identify with. It can't be just any random thing. And that's to be what lights you up and what brings you joy, because if it's not what lights you up and if it's not what brings you joy, it is destined to fail. You will lose interest and you actually want to be turned on by it.

Speaker 2:

So I would almost venture to say that, with you being a healer and the nursing thing, let me look at, let me scroll back up. Okay, with you being a healer, with you being the nursing thing, you have a lot of individuation in your chart, so you do like the one-on-one kind of connection that you get with people. And then you have oh, you have the 515 as well. Oh, my God. So for you, it's about finding a rhythm that is basically marching to the beat of your own drums, a rhythm of your own life, and then you have these rhythmic extremes that you have and it's something that you can't explain to a lot of people. It's something that a lot of people don't get about you and it's like well, you're into this and you're into that. Yes, that's because you are responding to long life, so absolutely making this your full-time gig as a generator. What you're here to do is you're here to respond. So the strategy for doing that is you're gonna wait to respond, you're gonna wait for something to come into your aura field, your energy field, and then once you're like oh, that makes sense for me, I have that resonates with me. Then it's time to go. But before you have something to respond to, it's time for you to actually sit and lie and wait, gotcha.

Speaker 2:

So, and the way you're designed to respond because you have a Defiant Stake Roll Center is you're designed to say uh-huh or other things. So you will notice in your life that you have probably been told throughout your life use your words. Don't say mm-hmm, mm-hmm, say no, give me an extra word, no, the sacral is a motor and it makes that noise automatically without you doing anything. And you'll notice it the most with food. Like you get some good food and you're like mm-hmm-mm, this is so good, that is your sacral saying oh my God, this is really good for me, I like this. And if someone says, hey, rachel, you want to go out to a movie and you're like, well, I mean, we can go later. But the first thing your sacred say was mm-mm, which means whatever, whatever reason your body says I don't want to do this. And those are the responses.

Speaker 1:

I'm. I don't mean to laugh, but this is so dead on because I'm immediately yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, do you want to like? And my family gets irritated with me because they'll be like, well, I want to do this. And then I'm like, okay, wait, wait, I'm sorry, I'm just, I'm having a moment, I'll try to be better, like it's automatically.

Speaker 2:

And I will tell you that that. I'm sorry, I'll try to be better. That's incorrect for you and your. Oh, okay Then if your body, because you're you're, you're welcome. I have an automatic no or yeah and that's, and that's. That is how the sacred works, okay, and almost bypasses the mind. Mine has nothing to do with it. Your body says something and you're like, oh, let me know.

Speaker 1:

But I do that, you're right. I feel bad.

Speaker 2:

Don't feel bad, because your body is telling you and I'll do an exercise with you Think about any situation that you have said no to initially, and then you flip around and you say yes, to think about how screwed up the situation is that you end up in.

Speaker 1:

Always, always, that is because I'm like always yes, I need an example. I know I get, I get, I will get messed up.

Speaker 2:

And that is because your body yeah.

Speaker 2:

Frustrated is the signature for you, for us. You'll immediately feel this frustration and that. So, if you're always frustrated, you're living in what we call in human design, the not self. It's when you are not being yourself. It is the sign from your body that whatever you're doing is not an alignment for you. When you're doing what is an alignment for you, this feeling that you should fill in your body is complete and total satisfaction. You're dissatisfied, you're cool.

Speaker 2:

So now? Now, what I would tell you with human design is experiment. So let yourself have those responses, those yes or no responses. Your sacral is going to respond to yes or no, this or that type of situations. So if I say to you, rachel, where do you want to go for dinner? I have no idea where I want to go for dinner. But if I say to sacred fish, one of those give you a response Boom, that is the right answer for you. That's the right answer for you. And just because something is a no right now doesn't mean in three weeks it will still be a no. You can always revisit those no responses. But you can revisit those yes responses, because things that were a no for me a year ago now are yes, so it's not no forever, it's no for this moment in time.

Speaker 2:

Right now.

Speaker 1:

And to tune into my body and how I'm feeling, and if I'm in a state of frustration, then I'm not living where I need to be.

Speaker 2:

I need to be a moment of satisfaction, absolutely. And every there's five different energy types. Kill me human design people, because I mean human design. Traditionalists will say there are four, there are five, but there are five different energy type and each different energy type has a different way of like interacting with the world. It's not a response for everyone, right? If you're a projector, if you know you're waiting for an invitation, and that's signature emotion that the projectors feel is they feel bitter.

Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you're a manifest or the signature emotion that they're not self is anger, but when they're on, when they're in the right environment, it's peace for a projector. When they're feeling you know, recognize and all that good stuff, they feel success. They feel successful. They feel great, right? So everyone has their own individual way that they're designed to feel when they're not being themselves and when they are being themselves.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And then I'll also go ahead.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no. You go ahead. I'm like you're talking.

Speaker 2:

Since you're a reading person, the other thing that I'll drop on you as a six to which is what made, which made me like go straight into human design. So how often in your life have you been told so I don't know why you need all this alone time. Well, you know everyone people in your space and you know everyone people around but you do want people around, but it has to be on your terms and that often, that's it.

Speaker 1:

So I will say, when I see the hermit in my line or what I think, that's what it is, 100%. I thrive on being alone. I don't leave me alone.

Speaker 2:

You'll tell you why. That is why People don't leave you alone is because. So what happens is a six to. We're both six, six, twos is when we take the alone time. It can become really a imbalance, really really quickly, because we will find ourselves so content that we don't. We're not interacting with people, we're barely responding to texts. We're doing all these things. This two line has to be called back out into the world. So when people are reaching back out to you, it's saying you've had enough alone time, come back up to the world. But that alone time is not for us just to completely disconnect and not have any time with anyone. It's for us to sit down and integrate wherever we've been experiencing. And then you'll find yourself in this position, as a six line, which is your conscious line. You find yourself in this where people are always looking at you and people are well, what is for? Let's Rachel knows. Let's ask Rachel, right, let's talk to her.

Speaker 1:

She knows what to do.

Speaker 2:

Always. The six line is the role model line. You don't have to try to be a role model. People just look at your life and you naturally role model things to them and I can tell you I'll ask a question that you're always been told you're not supposed to ask someone. Are you over 28 years old?

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1:

I'm older than you, Larry.

Speaker 2:

You don't look it. You do not look it. But the first 28 years of your life I also say this to you you lived your life as a three, as a line three like myself, like any six line, which means you did a lot of trial and error, you tried a lot of things, you made a lot of public mistakes and you're like why can't I stop making, I can't stop screwing up? And it's because those first 28 years of your life you were supposed to try everything out. Because what happens at 28 is we go up on what we call the roof and human design. We have all this experience in us and now we know what does work and what doesn't work.

Speaker 2:

And we're looking down from this elevated perspective on the roof. Literally. Just think about being on a roof and looking down and we can see everything from everyone and we can say, oh yep, that's not gonna work, that's not gonna work. I wouldn't do that. But it's hard to call us off the roof. If you have to, if you call us off the roof, it better be for a good damn reason, like if you're getting in our space and you're like really having us come down and explain something to you, you better have a good damn reason for that. And then, as you enter like 48 years old, we actually naturally come down off the roof and we start interacting with the world and we have all of this wisdom and all of these insights and all of this stuff to share with people.

Speaker 2:

But, people will come to you.

Speaker 1:

I'll be coming off the roof in two years.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you should actually be feeling the energy of that right now. It's kind of like you'll start getting this little restless, like, okay, it's time to do something.

Speaker 1:

I am getting restless.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, cause you've been on the roof for since you've been 28,. Right? So now it's time to come down and you have all this wisdom and all this insight, everything to share with people, because everything you had and you went through that first 28 years and even through your 30s, and you're up to right now. Right, you turned it, you tore it up, you turned it into wisdom, you ingested it, you took that special alone time that we need and you're like okay, this is how life works, this is how things go. Okay, and it's a very specific to you how do I want to show up in the world? How do I see the world? The thing about it is here's the crazy thing is, you're like I don't have the answers people are looking for. I can only tell you what's working for me.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. That's all you, that's all you're intended to do.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's to tell people what works for you. You might be the guru on the hill that everyone comes to, but you might not have that answer they're looking for. But if they come to you and you feel that response, say yeah, I'll share this with them, that yes or no response, right, Start with them. But don't tell them what to do. And that's the biggest thing for the six weeks, because we're like we have all this knowledge that was come to us and we will tell you. We're not going to tell you what to do. We will share with you what's happened and what we see, but what you do with that information after you take it from us, that's on you. We have. It has nothing to do with us.

Speaker 1:

I 100% resonate with that. I always say to my clients look, I am going to be a mentor for a little while, but ultimately you're going to have to ride the bike on your own, like.

Speaker 2:

So can like a true six time.

Speaker 1:

Larry, you are so amazing. If anyone is interested in booking a session learning more about you, you have an amazing website. Where is the best place for them to go to?

Speaker 2:

Go over to Paralary. That's P-A-R-A, l-a-r-r-ycom, and you can send me an email message there or you can book a reading there. You can get me on Instagram officially. Underscore Larry, I suck at social media. It's not something that I actually respond to using human design language. I really don't respond to social media that well, so I check it maybe once every three weeks of month.

Speaker 1:

So if you get me there, yes.

Speaker 2:

So if you get me there, you're like I've sent him a message. He hasn't sent anything back. It's because I probably haven't checked it. So email me. And you can email me at Larry at Paralarycom. I'll see that because it comes automatically over. But if you're going to send me an Instagram message, be prepared to wait. I would much rather you hit the website or just shoot me an email.

Speaker 1:

I love that. And for our final question, can you maybe share a piece of advice or wisdom for our listeners who are seeking to enhance their spiritual journey and personal growth?

Speaker 2:

I'll say something a lot of spiritual teachers won't like, and it's this if you're going to dive into spirituality, do it with balance, Because what a lot of spiritual people do and this is pretty much pretty much every spiritual teacher that I run across they teach so much heavy spirituality that they're actually teaching a different brand of escapism. So spirituality becomes it replaces alcoholism, it replaces drugs, it replaces sex, it replaces these things. You are not exempt from the human experience. So, yeah, you can be spiritual and you can do all your affirmations, all that good stuff, but you're going to have to live, and you're going to have to live a real life and the real world. You are not exempt from the human experience. So do not put all of your cards in the spiritual bucket, because I promise you that is the way to introduce the most resistance and non-manifestation into your life.

Speaker 1:

That is a really profound piece of ice and it almost likens it to spiritual bypassing. Like you, gotta live the experience Well. Larry, I want to thank you so, so much for coming to the Spiritual Spotlight Series. I am definitely going to have you back on when your book is coming out, so thank you again.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.

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