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Halloween Delights: Tarot, Spells, and Finding Beauty in the Darker Side of Life
Are you prepared to embrace the clouded beauty of Halloween?
Join us in unmasking the misunderstood charms of this eerie season.
Together we uncover the roots of Halloween traditions and the electrifying thrill they bring with them. From personal journeys into our crafts to the excitement found in the uncanny, we share our experiences encountering those who perceive Halloween as the devil's handiwork.
Dare to venture with us into the world of paranormal mysteries. We examine the potent symbols and archetypes that define Halloween and the allure of ghost hunting.
Jake offers insights into his chilling adventures and the significance of tools such as EVPs and EMF readers. We'll also touch on practices we employ to stay grounded in this potent season, including the use of grounding crystals.
As the veil thins, Halloween becomes a time for self-discovery and introspection. We explore the significance of rituals and ceremonies, and the exploration of shadow work - the hidden aspects of ourselves.
Jake shares his favorite stone for this season, while we remind you not to fear the darker side of yourself but rather embrace it.
This is our invitation for you to join us in the beauty of gray, pull back the curtain, and meet your true self.
Don't miss out on this thrilling and introspective exploration of Halloween.
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Hello everyone, Welcome to the episode of the beauty of gray. Hello Michelle, Hello, Hello Jake.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:So for today's episode, we are going to talk all about spooky season, because when this episode airs, it is going to be Halloween and I have a feeling that this is probably. I don't know. Jake, it may be your favorite holiday. Michelle, I'm like 99.99% sure this is your favorite Holiday. I may be wrong, maybe it's Christmas, I don't know. So let me ask you both, like what is it about this season that excites you and Michelle? We'll start with you.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, first of all, like October is just inherently in itself just a different sort of feeling of a month, like, yes, it's like it's cooler outside and the colors change and the overall vibe is just spookier, and I love that. I love everything that has to do with anything that is spooky and dark and creepy and all that fun stuff. But also, like you're, we're this is the time especially for for witches where you know we're honoring our ancestors and, just like you know, the veil is thinner, so like we get to do a little bit more, like get involved with things a little bit deeper. I don't know, I just I love everything about it, even just like the hokey stuff, like the whole the traditions about you know the costuming and you know getting together with friends and watching scary movies, even though nobody will watch scary movies with me because nobody likes them, but that's okay.
Speaker 1:Jake and I both like scary movies, did you? Well, maybe we should get together and do this and invite.
Speaker 2:No, listen, I just automatically assume nobody likes them as much as I do. I follow, I follow sleep to these things. It's that's like. It's a like comfort movies for me. Like the shining is a comfort movie for me. Oh yeah, definitely, yeah, I see that. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, totally see that one yeah.
Speaker 1:So, jake, what is it about Halloween? And also watching scary movies. Do you enjoy?
Speaker 3:Oh well, watching scary movies. I feel like the scary movie thing is kind of the same thing as like why people love to ride motorcycles or even do roller coasters. It's like that's the real of being alive, right? Yes, that's why I really like it.
Speaker 1:It's like that uncomfortable feeling that you're like what's next, what's next?
Speaker 3:Yes, it's, it's just. This is like it's this cold chill of a thrill feeling that you get when you watch the screen movies. You know you're actively participating in suspended reality to be along for this ride, right? Yeah, yeah, gosh. The list kind of kind of goes on for my love.
Speaker 3:With October and the sour time, chief, I mean, I think as a kid I always loved Halloween. That was really my time to shine, even before any of this for me, and this was also the time of year where I started stepping into my craft for the first time, learning so and then, over the years, especially developing my abilities with spirit work. No coincidence, you know, the thinning of the veil for October, especially even into the wintertime this, this is definitely from September all the way until, like, february are really like my time to thrive. I think that it just really gives you that that sense of having to tuck back hi, bernie, let the cold, let the cold dirt simmer, you know, and just get really tucked up and cozy, especially when the weather forces you inside. I love to be very just, introspective, journaling, creative, really that kind of delicious, kind of self indulgent stuff at home, and I just think that the season just really calls for that and I that's. It's my favorite.
Speaker 1:I think it's also a good time. I don't know about you guys, but, like Jake said, this is when you really dive deeper into your practices. And, michelle, I would imagine you're probably doing the same thing with your spellwork and with just whatever you know modalities that you're currently working with, and I feel like this is when I've been drawn to other modalities. Now let me ask you this question have you guys ever encountered somebody who is totally against Halloween and feels like it's the devil's work? Yep, oh yeah. So I have to share with you guys.
Speaker 1:So I'm. I'm from Georgia, even though Jake denies it, and I. I was raised in a very religious Christian household and for many years we were not allowed to celebrate Halloween and it was the devil's work. But I will tell you that we all suck out and we all went trick or treating and we would hide our porches and and for me, like Halloween. This is just such a bond like I think it brings me back to being playful and really like that energy, of just like it's that tricky energy.
Speaker 1:you know, like what can I do to be a prankster? You know, it's just and it's fun, like it. Just it reminds me that to bring me back to my childhood, you know. So what else for you, michelle, like what do you do in this time of year that you love?
Speaker 2:To kind of step off of what Jake was saying, that like, because I mean like it. I always try to tell my students that especially when you're, when you're practicing, you want to be able to follow nature and figure you know, like. So now is the time to kind of go into that hibernation and it's wonderful because, like, look like, I will always be like talking about like that feeling of being a kid again type of thing. I love being cooped up in my, in my space and having all of my books all over, like all over the place, and and candles going and you know some like hot tea and all that stuff, like and just like communing with the spirits. It's so much fun and like and and just diving into those, into those, that kind of that.
Speaker 2:I don't know that that's that things that everyone, that things that are that are scary, like, because I grew up Roman Catholic and like now, granted, we were allowed to, you know, to experience Halloween and dress up and all that stuff, like it wasn't considered the devil's work or anything like that, but I mean, I think it's also probably why I was, I was like it's fine, I can be a witch inside.
Speaker 2:So, like this just really does call on this time of year is just, it's so comforting for me and it is such a Like. So many people get like that, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that, but so many people get so upset when summer is over with and I'm just like no, let everything just get cold and dark and dreary, cause that is when I feel most creative, that is when I feel most like when it comes to like doing spells and things like that. Like it's like like. So, jake, I totally completely adhere to what you're saying. Like it's just diving into that energy is just one of my most favorite things. Like I live, I'm the type of person that loves like those gloomy days, like that's like blustery outside and it might be a little bit rainy and it's just like it's the perfect like atmosphere for a scary movie type of situation where you're like I don't know, is Michael around the corner?
Speaker 2:I don't know but I know I hope so.
Speaker 3:I love it, don't you think that there's like such a? I always feel like there's such a static in the air. You know, around this time in this, like I don't know people. Well, yeah, you can call it gloomy, this rainy, moody place, but I think it's. It's a really such an important time because I mean, especially as somebody who observes the seasons of the year and looking at that as kind of this being the time that mother nature kind of goes into hibernation and, in some different mythos, believes that in some way that she dies to rebirth in the spring. So I've always kind of really loved this time of year.
Speaker 3:If you think about it, it's kind of like the necessity of having to sleep, resting at night, where you regenerate, where you heal the body, taking care of yourself. So I think that all of those things that self care, that saying kind of tucked inside, journaling, reading, really kind of taking care of yourself, becoming introspective I think all of that stuff is very conducive to that kind of slumber, energy. Right, I think it's a great time for people to slow down and I think that a lot of times a lot of my clients have a hard time and struggle with slowing that down and almost having to spend more time alone. There's various different reasons for that, but I think that it's such a good opportunity to slow down and get to know yourself, to go back over you know what of the whirlwind of the past couple of months that was spring and summer that I just experienced and almost kind of have the opportunity to integrate it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a really magical is really the best word that I can use to it. But again, there's this electricity in the air that is just. If you are somebody who is witchy or magical, aligned with energy or spirit, it just pulls you in. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:This time of the year is when my energy healing is the most potent.
Speaker 1:And also my and I like the fact that you both have brought this up, like you go within, like I do a lot of energetic meditations and they're like aligning my body, putting my higher self in a safe space, like really being connected to my multi-dimensional being and just really like kind of traveling with that energy. And I think for Michelle, like when you were talking, like as I was hearing you, it just seems like this is your most authentic time of the year and this is like your true self.
Speaker 1:And it just probably for you too, jake, and it's like it's a beautiful thing to like watch you talk about it and how excited you are Like yeah, this is me and this is what I do when I love spooky season and I love the gloomyness and I'm like I love the sun, but that's okay, exactly. But I love like you guys, like honestly, like Michelle, like you just feel like when you're saying it, it's like you're true, authentic, like this is you?
Speaker 1:And you're and I also want to say like cause, when you were talking to like being a witch, I know sometimes you guys can have a stigma against it and your practices and you're like no, I'm going to own this aspect of myself and everyone else can kick rocks. And I think it's admirable that you both are willing to be like, to show your true selves and be like yeah, this is what I do and this is what I love, and if you don't like it, I don't care, like whatever.
Speaker 3:No, 100%. And I think that even just like in, like this modern time, like the whole archetype of being a witch, is really so much of a socio-political position as well and that's an essay for another time but it's such a powerful archetype of powerful position to be in, especially in the way that we can kind of inform our communities, inform the people around us, you know, which has always been viewed as the ones that always have the secrets, the ones with the records, the ones with the unknown truths, so always kind of those lighthouses to kind of tap in and be like, okay, well, let me peek past the veil right here and let's get into the nitty gritty of stuff. What's really going on. So I really enjoyed that aspect of here too. What about ooh, ooh, ooh, okay, we have to talk about. We have to talk about what is everybody's favorite. Are there tools, crystals, what is like your thing, that like you just get pulled to?
Speaker 1:Jake, I love this question. Michelle's already like let's go.
Speaker 2:I'm like, I'm looking at all of the things that I have.
Speaker 2:Let's go, I'm all the way, all the way down. Oh, my God, like all of it, just like anything that's like I mean okay, look, this is year round anyway for me, anything that is like when we're talking about crystals like obsidian and smoky quartz and things that are all very like dark and you know. But just oh, this is actually kind of difficult because I usually before okay, it kind of touched back on what we were saying before Like I try to be authentically me year round or 65, yeah, yes, but when it comes to this season, it's like it's giving because everybody else is more accepting of it.
Speaker 2:So I feel like I don't have to explain myself ever. Not that I have to explain myself, but like it's when people that don't usually get it they're like oh, okay, well, like, here's your time to be kind of creepy and spooky or whatever, and you're like honey, I am like this all of the time, you're welcome. So like, when we're talking about my favorite things, like I have. You know, like I constantly have black candles out all the time. I'm constantly like I have.
Speaker 2:I was just like look at all of my stuff that I have in my little corner, things that, like I love bats and I love you know, like what they represent and I love, obviously, the moon and like and just everything that is supposed to be dark and scary and things that people are afraid of. But in the meantime, I'm just like but look at the beauty within that. Like you know, snakes are supposed to be horrifying, but I freaking love them. Like I just, you know, like things that are just God bless you. God bless you. Like things that like no, look and like I'm also like I'm afraid of spiders, spider's freaking out, but if they're small enough I'll be like, go ahead, little one, out the door, and I even like it's. The other day we were there was a little jumping spider when we were outside and I was like, oh hello, little friend, please don't come near me and get in my hair. But hello, like, but things like that, like that stuff is like my favorite stuff. I love working with things that people find scary.
Speaker 1:I love all of that when it comes to my practice, they're not scary to you. They're not scary to you Like you're bringing it to a more like guys. There's no reason to be scary.
Speaker 2:Let's go on a lot of these things, and like spirit, communication and things like that, like it's like the veil is thin, like there's nothing wrong with you know, maybe trying to do a little bit of mirror scrying and see if you can communicate, and like we would safely please, for the love of fricking everything always. Well, just connecting, just connecting. Yes, you know, and there's nothing wrong with that and I think you know anyway.
Speaker 1:But that's Jake what about for you? I guess I kind of answered yours. You let up about spiders. What about you, jake? You did If you didn't like? I like spiders. I don't like spiders, but spiders are cool, spiders are cool.
Speaker 3:I feel like being so into this journey now and perhaps it's maybe even my study of tarot or a study of just magical symbols, icons, things like that. I feel like it's really been such a blessing because I have really learned to fall in love with those things that people really kind of demonize. Right, the archetype of the snake, the archetype of the spider, is such an integral piece to the universe. Right, Because the spider is the web, it's the universe, it's all synchronic events. So I it's really always fun and interesting to see, you know, how all the things that we normally equate with Halloween people are so frightened of, but there's so much powerful psychological things behind that. Right, you know, we can sit here and analyze the archetype of Frankenstein or the werewolf, the vampire, Gosh. I have such a love and appreciation and adoration for the mythos of vampires and I have really benefited deeply in my practice by working with them, working with them as an energy, choosing to walk with them in that way. I'm gonna feel giddy, I know I love it so much.
Speaker 1:I have to say. What I really like is grounding crystals, Like you know, like you guys brought up like smokey quartz shun guide. I do kind of feel like you both have mentioned this about returning to the season and I feel like.
Speaker 1:It's like getting yourself grounded, getting yourself centered and really being firmly grounded and rooted. In how I do that is with grounding crystals and the other practice that I do and this is with the veils being thin is connecting with ancestors, like. This is a really powerful time that you can connect with ancestors. One of the ladies that I know she's also practicing what she's doing. She's like every night she's picking a different ancestor and she's like it's a different dessert and tonight's is cherry pie Like, and I love that you put it that way.
Speaker 1:It was just, but it's a good reminder of you know you both brought it up like connect with the you know the spooky. Connect with your grandma, like you love your grandma.
Speaker 2:Connect with her Exactly, and let's be speaking of spooky.
Speaker 1:Jake, we know that you just finished a course for ghost hunting and we want to hear all about this, cause we know it's cool and amazing. Michelle and I are going to sit here with our jaws wide open and tell us all about it.
Speaker 2:I'm so excited. I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So last night we officially wrapped up. I took the course it was at Hudson Valley actually, and I didn't know that this was such a commonly held course but paranormal investigator. His name is Jack Kenna. He teaches a fall class and a spring class, so an intro and then like an advanced one, and so it was really fun because you learn all of the essentials of equipment how to conduct a really sound investigation from research and designating different parts, assembling a team, and the importance of having separate people doing different things, gathering research, somebody who understands and handles the equipment, somebody who is not afraid to interview the people of the space, the land, the house, whatever that might be, and also how much time and energy goes into analyzing all of this evidence.
Speaker 3:We did a four hour hunt and in those four hours there's about 16 hours worth of audio and video to go through, because it's, you know, my phone recording and then it's the tape recorder recording, a video camera recording. So you're combing through these things, and some really fascinating stuff did come through. So we investigated the Shaker Historical Society, which was such an interesting experience. It's one thing for me, you know, as I was thinking to do my walkthroughs, which I already do often. But to look at it from an investigative point, I always find it so stunning. You know when you can catch these things on video or in audio.
Speaker 3:We captured an audio clip where we're in the main building, where they would dance and they had like the pews there so people could come watch and observe them while they celebrated. So I was upstairs and it was my mom also took the class. That's our idea of family bonding so she was downstairs and she had played music for the spirits just to see if we could prompt, you know, a response. And just having conversation a couple minutes later, all of a sudden in the audio recording, music please, music please.
Speaker 3:But it was not the same song and you can hear it clear as day. It was a much more slow, much more kind of shanty kind of. It almost kind of reminded me of like a Gregorian chant, almost in the way that. Like it was very slow and sultry, which does make perfect sense, because I think her name is Johanna, the one that is the manager of the Shaker please. She said that a lot of the music that you look up on YouTube now is very much faster, is faster, more up-tempo than what they actually realistically listen to, but it was so clear as day which would be classified as a class A EVP.
Speaker 3:For those that don't know what is an EVP oh sure, so it's an electro voice phenomenon and there's multiple different classes of EVPs. But essentially there is, you know your classes where it's a disembodied voice. People hear it, or sometimes one person will hear it in its Qua on video, but nobody else hears it. Then there's you know class B, where you can hear it on audio but we're all kind of not quite sure. We've got different grasps of like what we think it says. And then there's, of course, the class C where, like, you hear it but you can't really make heads or tails of what it is. But you know that it's something. So EVPs are great and anybody could really do this. With any technology you can use your phone, Voice recorders are super cheap, ebay, amazon, all of that good stuff you can go out to really anywhere. I mean being in Albany. There's so many historical haunted places where you can just sit down and have conversation.
Speaker 3:But one of the things that we learned in this class was the importance of having like coherent questions, right? So not saying you know what was your favorite color and then immediately going how did I? What's your name. But you have to understand though actually so much more common than what you would think because I've been to other investigations where they are very disjointed like that. But if you think about it it's like doing a science experiment and not wearing gloves. You're cross contaminating everything. You can't make anything coherent. So really fun stuff, really interesting stuff. I met a lot of very interesting spirits there. There was one woman in the farmhouse who told me that she saw auras when she was in the human world. She was able to see auras and interpret energy like that. However, she did say that she didn't necessarily in that life buy into that spirituality that the shakers were kind of said to have had, of that communion with spirit. She was telling me that she was actually very convinced that it was a little yeah, no, it was a little shaky. Pardon the pun.
Speaker 1:I know I was like shake a red cheeky.
Speaker 2:But I'm chill.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, but at the end of the day it was really quite beautiful because I encountered a couple of different energies who really kind of gave me the lung in. The short of it was that they didn't necessarily have a place to go and this was a place that accepted them, gave them a job, gave them food, and it was a reliable place to go and lay their head at night. Right, despite the trials and tribulations, despite getting the absolute hell beat out of them several times by the community, which put a pin in. That is so fascinating to this day to actually see all the different buildings and all the different things named Albie Shaker Road, all these different things with shaker in it, when at the time they were absolutely like actively getting beat in the streets just for being the way that they were.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I worked at an assisted living called Atria Shaker.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's so crazy. A lot of them really like through the village, through the towns, beaten, hit, jailed. Even so, it's such an interesting thing to see how history kind of changes afterwards and now all of a sudden we've got things named after them. That's something to sit back and be tickled by. But yeah, so I really loved it for really kind of having a look at that format and then also understanding the equipment, because, listen, I've been to investigations, I'm here for the spooky but I couldn't fucking tell you one thing about, you know, the EMF reader or anything like that, and I know that some people are dying to know that, but so I'm very excited for us to go off and have some kind of experience with that.
Speaker 1:I really like the idea of let me ask you this, jake I like the idea like everyone had an assigned role, like you're gonna do the research, you're gonna do this, you're gonna be the psychic medium reading the energy. Like I love that because I feel like for us and I know we wanna do a ghost hunt like we can all pick up a different role and it's like Rachel goes to the research. Like I love this like.
Speaker 2:I'm like.
Speaker 1:I can actually participate.
Speaker 3:It gives such a structure to it.
Speaker 3:And also gave me such an appreciation, because most investigations go out and go on over several days, but mine was in four hours, right, so it was really interesting just the evidence that we picked up alone then, but to actually step back and appreciate, you know, oh my gosh, this is over several days, wow, yeah.
Speaker 3:But now I do think there is something to be said in regards to investigations versus hunts. Ghost hunts, which are very different and by that I mean ghost hunts, would be, you know, events curated, where the public can maybe come, stay at a haunted place, or maybe they come in, they get to play with the equipment, you know, talk to spirits, probably poke at them, you know, do things that might kind of riddle the energy a little bit and can often really get into that territory of being quite disrespectful, yes, which you know, just as somebody who really just spirit is just very near and dear to my heart. I hate to see. And actually, if anybody has Garrett Jackson on Facebook, he is a shaman and does that practice and he's been talking a lot this October about kind of the ethics around ghost hunts and investigations, which I think is really fascinating.
Speaker 1:So if anybody wants to look into that, check out his Facebook page, because I know even Michelle Lyons like she is somebody that you know this work and she's always like ghost or just people too. And we need to be respectful of spirit and Jake I know that, and probably Michelle, you too, you've gone on these places that you are known paranormal activity that maybe people aren't treating it respectfully and like how do you? Guys work with that.
Speaker 3:I mean. Unfortunately for me in the past it was events that I was also an attendant with. Thankfully it didn't necessarily get too too far. I remember having an experience at the Shanley Hotel where this one couple was already a box of Francia wine deep, oh my God it was. It was really like a sitcom. I thought I was being punked. All of a sudden. Fast forward to we're in the middle of the dark, this woman's yelling at the spirits being like you can't have them, let them go like really yelling, as if like she's like the little psychic lady from Poltergeist so funny, her husband dead asleep in the other room, supposed to be having a recorded dead asleep. You hear snoring, oh my gosh. So there really are some wacky souls. But I think that the privilege with now kind of being able to go forward and kind of have something a little bit more isolated is hopefully that you know the company that you keep would be a little bit more respectful.
Speaker 1:Well, and also now you have education, like you may not have known. I mean now, you know, like I didn't know, like from Michelle's point of view, and until I spoke with her and you know she was like goes to just people too, and it's like, oh, you're right, like it's just, it gives you a different perspective. Yeah, so how about for you, michelle? Absolutely All these Michelle's.
Speaker 2:Well, I've been all the Michelle's. I've definitely had experiences where you know, I've gone even on like ghost tours and everything. I had to make an incredibly long story short and a very like profound experience years and years and years ago where everything just kind of like just think about it and we were able to get a very private tour of how to mansion in North Attermouth, massachusetts, and it's I. Now it's like you can't, you can't do those experiences now because they, somebody else, bought the space, but there was a lot of different things that had happened that made me feel very connected to that, to that space. And then the second time that I went, it was with the same people but then there was a bigger tour that was there and people were like they just didn't care, you know, and they just like it's like it was like they're walking through, like like a haunted house experience at the fair and it's like no, these are like, these are people that have lived in, like unfortunately, like I mean, I mean it's part of the draw, but the whole. When someone goes through tragedy or a group of of people have gone through some sort of tragedy and we make a, an attraction out of it, it's very drawing like. I mean, I absolutely want to be a part of that, but also you need to be respectful of it, that, yes, these were human beings that walk to this earth and now they're in their spirit and they're in their own world Also, like you know, kind of doing what they're doing, it matters, like I.
Speaker 2:I had a very deep connection with a, with one of the spirits that had had passed on the property, and the first time around and I felt in his space was like he was very impacted, like in his room and very just, very safe and very calm and at ease. The rest of the house, and especially the basement, freaked me the hell out. I don't get scared easily. It just there was an energy there that just was not you know. But but at the second time that we went around, I didn't feel him at all. I didn't hear him, I didn't see him, I did nothing.
Speaker 2:And because there were all these people that were basically making fun of their, making fun of his name they're making it's like what? Why do people think it's okay to bully a spirit, you know? Just because you might not be able to see or hear them or feel them, and I think that they're not there. And you know, ghost hunting, ghost investigation, all that stuff it is absolutely fascinating. But there needs to come some sort of reverence that comes with it, instead of just kind of going in all willy-nilly and be like listen ghost, like no, let's not do that please.
Speaker 1:So do you guys ever feel compelled to help them cross over?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it depends.
Speaker 3:Exactly. And first of all, it's not just because I come across a spirit does not necessarily mean that they want to be crossed over.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really that I kind of put out the PSA. Listen, if anybody needs assistance, you know, you know, you know, you know where to find me. But again, we're all humans, so it's the same as you know, if your grandmother's in her 90s, we're not necessarily going to go put her on hospice now just to push it along.
Speaker 1:We're not going to push the morphine guys.
Speaker 3:No, but yeah, and I even think that it's even so much as like whenever I come to a place or when I'm doing a house clearing for somebody, just from from my practice, I will put down some tobacco and some cornmeal to offer to the spirits as a thing. So it's kind of like a housewarming gift. I think it's a lot easier for people once you kind of put it into your framework that it's like oh, these are real humans and I'm entering into their home essentially. So when you treat them like that, your your conversations, the kind of evidence that you can get dramatically changes, because now the spirit has has, you know, a little bit of familiarity with you, or it might be a little bit more inclined to want to communicate with you versus coming in and maybe ha ha, he, he, essentially on their grave. You know exactly, exactly Big difference.
Speaker 1:So, with that being said, we are happy to announce that we are going to be doing some ghost investigating, coming up in future episodes that we're super excited about. So, before we wrap this up, jake, michelle, anything that you guys want to add in about the spooky season and why you guys love Halloween or anything like that, or what are you going to be for Halloween? I have a very Potter character because my niece is making me and it was interesting.
Speaker 1:I have to tell you guys this I don't. I always go to Buffalo for Halloween. I spend Halloween with my family and there, because they love Halloween so much and they decorate and it's such a I love the community, family event of Halloween.
Speaker 1:I think that's what I truly love about Halloween. It's fun and like you get to trigger trading and everyone. Just it's like community is fun, like they're so much like the older people and they have their fires going and they're giving out Twinkies and you're like I just love it. So I will be a Harry Potter character. And what about you guys?
Speaker 3:I don't know if I'm going to be anything. To be honest, A witch. Yeah, my costume is just going to be a spooky gay witch.
Speaker 1:I love it. Anything else, jake, you want to add in, for we wrap this amazing episode up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the long story didn't read version is take this opportunity to create ceremony, find some kind of ritual that makes you feel connected, an opportunity for you to find out new things about your practice, about yourself. Journaling, asking questions, shadow work is such a great time to do so too. This is really just an open love letter for you to get to know yourself, get to know your peeps and spirit, the people that, before you read historical things, read facts about your family, stories about your family. This is a time of remembrance, you know, and also for anybody that wants my stone recommendation White how Light is my absolute favorite, especially for this time of year. Doing that kind of really introspective, juicy work, I love it. Oh yeah, it's great. And for you.
Speaker 2:Michelle, I mean just to kind of like everything that Jake said just listen to Jake but like, definitely, what would Jake do?
Speaker 1:All right, that's our motto. What would you?
Speaker 2:do? What would Jake do? It definitely, for me, kind of spurring off of that is not everything. During this time of year and in the coming months it's not such a scary, depressing time or it doesn't need to be. I know that a lot of people like this is the they don't like this time of year, they don't like Halloween, because that means winter. But winter can be such a beautiful time because, yes, journaling and doing shadow work and getting to know who you are and diving a little bit deeper and understanding that it's okay to embrace that darker side of you, because it's not as scary as everyone thinks it is and it's not as detrimental as everyone thinks it is. So and also, you know, go like, if you're interested in this stuff, just go seek it out Like it's okay, it's, you're not a weirdo, you're not. Like it's okay, the rest of us are out there. We'll be like, yeah, let's go, do go something. That'll be fun, you know so.
Speaker 1:And when you're saying that to like darker doesn't mean bad, it means exactly to kind of bring in that aspect of yourself to balance out Absolutely. That's where I think it's not dark, it's just look at a different aspect of yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you can't always be like, like it's not. It's just not physically possible unicorns in sunshine.
Speaker 1:It can't be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's, there's beauty in that, like you know, the beauty in the gray and all that stuff, like it's like look at you winning that in Sorry Jake. So what are we gonna say?
Speaker 1:Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2:Jake Sorry, I love the way.
Speaker 3:You just said that because it's a perfect thing. It's kind of like this is the time of year where it's very like Wizard of Oz, where you pull the curtain back and you see the wizard for who it is. You know it's taking a look at. When we say shadow work, all of this stuff, it's really taking a look at parts of ourselves that perhaps maybe we have reserved shame, guilt, fear, all of those things under that umbrella about and attributed to. It's a really great way to kind of dig that up to the surface and really learn to be like oh, this is a part of me just as equal as my joy, as my passions, as my adventure, as my love, all of this stuff. So it's a really beautiful way to kind of integrate the spirit and get to know yourself as a whole right, instead of just living life as one half, one half and all late.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for anyone that's interested in learning more about this, I would recommend listening to our archetypes episode, because we really dive deep into this. There's decks that are recommended and practices. I would listen to that episode.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:On that note, I hope everybody has a happy Halloween Stay spooky.
